Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt
"Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)" <rmohanr@cisco.com> Wed, 08 June 2016 04:44 UTC
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From: "Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)" <rmohanr@cisco.com>
To: Victor Pascual <victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com>, "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" <gsalguei@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt
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Works for me as well. Thanks, Ram -----Original Message----- From: bfcpbis <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Victor Pascual <victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 7 June 2016 at 11:46 PM To: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" <gsalguei@cisco.com> Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>, "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt >Fine with me > >> On 07 Jun 2016, at 20:12, Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) >><gsalguei@cisco.com> wrote: >> >> I¹m OK with that approach. I also agree that they are entirely too >>different in purpose to try and merge them. >> >> -G >> >> >>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) >>><eckelcu@cisco.com> wrote: >>> >>> (As an individual) >>> >>> Good question. I agree it seems a bit strange. But my thinking is that >>>our use of ³Updates² may not be appropriate. I view RFC 4582 and RFC >>>4583 as defining BFCP over TCP and over UDP. This draft takes BFCP over >>>TCP and defines how to encapsulate it within a WebSocket and how to >>>negotiate that encapsulation. So I think these drafts are related but >>>separate, and that we should remove the ³Updates² label and simply have >>>RFC4582bis and RFC4583bis as normative references (as they already >>>are). Thoughts? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Charles >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 6/1/16, 7:14 AM, "bfcpbis on behalf of Paul Kyzivat" >>>><bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a question. >>>> >>>>> This document updates RFC4582bis and RFC4583bis. >>>> >>>> Those documents are *drafts*. Does it really make sense to handle the >>>> changes this way? I guess that means that this document will need to >>>>be >>>> held until they become RFCs, and then it can update them. >>>> >>>> Wouldn't it make more sense to simply make the changes in those >>>>drafts >>>> now, before they become RFCs? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Paul >>>> >>>>> On 6/1/16 2:51 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>>>directories. >>>>> This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis >>>>>of the IETF. >>>>> >>>>> Title : The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for >>>>>the Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) >>>>> Authors : Victor Pascual >>>>> Antón Román >>>>> Stéphane Cazeaux >>>>> Gonzalo Salgueiro >>>>> Ram Mohan Ravindranath >>>>> Sergio Garcia Murillo >>>>> Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt >>>>> Pages : 13 >>>>> Date : 2016-05-31 >>>>> >>>>> Abstract: >>>>> The WebSocket protocol enables two-way realtime communication >>>>>between >>>>> clients and servers. This document specifies a new WebSocket sub- >>>>> protocol as a reliable transport mechanism between Binary Floor >>>>> Control Protocol (BFCP) entities to enable usage of BFCP in new >>>>> scenarios. This document updates RFC4582bis and RFC4583bis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket/ >>>>> >>>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08 >>>>> >>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>>> >>>>>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>>>submission >>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>>> >>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> bfcpbis mailing list >>>>> bfcpbis@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> bfcpbis mailing list >>>> bfcpbis@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bfcpbis mailing list >>> bfcpbis@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bfcpbis mailing list >> bfcpbis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis > >_______________________________________________ >bfcpbis mailing list >bfcpbis@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis
- [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-web… internet-drafts
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Victor Pascual
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)