Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-15.txt

"Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com> Fri, 04 November 2016 15:42 UTC

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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-15.txt
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Any thoughts on this? Based on the last call discussions on the draft-mux-attributes, is this an appropriate change and is there still time to make it.

Cheers,
Charles

On 10/27/16, 3:32 AM, "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com<mailto:eckelcu@cisco.com>> wrote:

Christer and Paul,

Having taken another look at the mux attributes draft, I think you are both correct.
TBD is defined as follows:

4.9.  Category: TBD

   The attributes in the TBD category have not been analyzed under the
   proposed multiplexing framework and SHOULD NOT be multiplexed.

This seems appropriate not only for bfcpver but also for floorctlr. If we agree to this, the mux attribute draft would need to be updated to reflect this.

Cheers,
Charles

On 10/26/16, 10:08 PM, "bfcpbis on behalf of Christer Holmberg" <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I wonder whether draft-mux-attributes should define the mux category for attributes associated with BFCP to begin with. Because, IF someone at some point defines how to bundle BFCP, draft-mux-attributes would have to be updated.

Regards,

Christer


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On 10/26/16 2:14 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
Hi,


I don't understand how it can be IDENTICAL if we haven't even defined
how to bundle multiple bfcp streams.

+1

I suspect that the solution to bundling bfcp will be bfcp over data channel.

    Thanks,
    Paul

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