Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt

Victor Pascual <victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com> Tue, 07 June 2016 18:16 UTC

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From: Victor Pascual <victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 20:16:07 +0200
To: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" <gsalguei@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt
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Fine with me

> On 07 Jun 2016, at 20:12, Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m OK with that approach.  I also agree that they are entirely too different in purpose to try and merge them.
> 
> -G
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>> (As an individual)
>> 
>> Good question. I agree it seems a bit strange. But my thinking is that our use of “Updates” may not be appropriate. I view RFC 4582 and RFC 4583 as defining BFCP over TCP and over UDP. This draft takes BFCP over TCP and defines how to encapsulate it within a WebSocket and how to negotiate that encapsulation. So I think these drafts are related but separate, and that we should remove the “Updates” label and simply have RFC4582bis and RFC4583bis as normative references (as they already are). Thoughts?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/1/16, 7:14 AM, "bfcpbis on behalf of Paul Kyzivat" <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a question.
>>> 
>>>> This document updates RFC4582bis and RFC4583bis.
>>> 
>>> Those documents are *drafts*. Does it really make sense to handle the 
>>> changes this way? I guess that means that this document will need to be 
>>> held until they become RFCs, and then it can update them.
>>> 
>>> Wouldn't it make more sense to simply make the changes in those drafts 
>>> now, before they become RFCs?
>>> 
>>>    Thanks,
>>>    Paul
>>> 
>>>> On 6/1/16 2:51 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>>> This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis  of the IETF.
>>>> 
>>>>       Title           : The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP)
>>>>       Authors         : Victor Pascual
>>>>                         Antón Román
>>>>                         Stéphane Cazeaux
>>>>                         Gonzalo Salgueiro
>>>>                         Ram Mohan Ravindranath
>>>>                         Sergio Garcia Murillo
>>>>    Filename        : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08.txt
>>>>    Pages           : 13
>>>>    Date            : 2016-05-31
>>>> 
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>  The WebSocket protocol enables two-way realtime communication between
>>>>  clients and servers.  This document specifies a new WebSocket sub-
>>>>  protocol as a reliable transport mechanism between Binary Floor
>>>>  Control Protocol (BFCP) entities to enable usage of BFCP in new
>>>>  scenarios.  This document updates RFC4582bis and RFC4583bis.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket/
>>>> 
>>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08
>>>> 
>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-bfcp-websocket-08
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>> 
>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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