Re: The same prefix originated within two different ASs
Tony Bates <Tony.Bates@mci.net> Tue, 11 July 1995 18:35 UTC
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To: Photon - NOL Staff <photon@dazed.nol.net>
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Subject: Re: The same prefix originated within two different ASs
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From: Tony Bates <Tony.Bates@mci.net>
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Check out draft-ietf-idr-symm-multi-prov-01.txt and referenced drafts which discusses this point at some length. --Tony. Photon - NOL Staff <photon@dazed.nol.net> writes: * On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Christopher D. Wheeler wrote: * * > * > * > Can someone please reiterate to me, from experience, reasons why a prefix * > shouldn't be advertised as originating from two separate ASs? I think * > this is a bad thing and I understand that by advertising the prefix from * > two separate ASs there is no way to distinguish the policies of that * > prefix. But, in today's Internet, does anyone have any experience with w * hat * > kind of problems this equates to, so that I can forward them on to the * > appropriate people. * > * > I have a site that I am trying to convince that this is a bad thing and I * > would like some support. The customer is a dual-homed site to provider A * > and provider B, but doesn't want to run BGP (fear of routing protocols I * > guess), rather just wants their prefixes advertised in both provider A an * d * > provider B ASs. * > * > Thanks. * > * > -Chris * > * > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- * ------ * > Christopher D. Wheeler INTERNET: cwheeler@interglobe.com * > interGlobe Networks, Inc. OFFICE: 206.329.9266 * > 1711 E. Olive Way, Suite 402 FAX: 206.860.7821 * > Seattle, WA 98102 INFO: info@interglobe.com * > URL: http://www.interglobe.com * > * > * * * If you just need a reason to convince your customer, then routing symmetry * is probably your best answer. If providers A and B both announce the * customers network, when provider C needs to send a packet to the network in * question (Provider C is some distant network with no direct connections to * A * or B), there is no clear way determine which path to take. The benefits of * and desirablilty of routing symmetry have been outlined in numerous places * by numerous people. * * For that matter, how is this customer planning to do their own routing over * two links without using BGP or something similar? Are they default routing * to provider A and doing a large amount of static routes to the customers * of provider B? Really, the idea of them _not_ using an intelligent routing * protocol in this situation seems silly. * * Brandon * * .-------------------------------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- - - - - * | _____ _______ __ * | |___ \ |_____ \ |__| Brandon Lee Black . * | __ \ \ __ \ : __ . * | --==| |=| || |==| || |==] TCP/IP Networking - Unix Admin [=====-- : * : | | | |: `\/' :| :---. : * : |__| |__| \______/ |______| Photon | * . Networks On-Line | * . photon@nol.net | * - - - -- --- ---- ----- ------ --------------------------------' *
- The same prefix originated within two different A… Christopher D. Wheeler
- The same prefix originated within two different A… Christopher D. Wheeler
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Photon - NOL Staff
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Photon - NOL Staff
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Tony Bates
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Tony Bates
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Vadim Antonov
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Vadim Antonov
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Alan Barrett
- Re: The same prefix originated within two differe… Alan Barrett