Re: ASN draft
Cengiz Alaettinoglu <cengiz@isi.edu> Tue, 07 February 1995 23:55 UTC
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To: Paul Traina <pst@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: ASN draft
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Paul Traina (pst@cisco.com) on February 6: > Which are ONLY useful for making route determinations. If there is no > route determination differential, then there's nothing wrong with clumping > together ASs. I agree with this definition. However, I am not sure if we agree what the "route determination differential" is. Perhaps we do. Two domains, a provider and a customer, may have the same set of policies and it may be OK for the customer to use the provider's ASN if they were in isolation. However, a third transit provider, distant in the Internet, may want to *differentiate* between the provider and the customer, or this customer from another customer of the provider. That is there is "route determination differential". If the customer uses the same ASN as its provider, the third provider is forced to use network lists, which do not scale as nicely. I guess in this case these three domains (as being "consenting adults"), may agree to use a different ASN for this customer. The draft fails to mention that "route determination differential" can be somewhere other than the customer and the provider and may cause a different ASN for the customer. The draft also fails to mention that the main motivation of the work is to avoid ASN space exhaustion. It sound more like this is what we would do even if the ASN space was infinite. Tony, please correct me if I am wrong in my observations regarding what the draft says. I have read it long time ago and only looked at the diffs in the new draft which were very minor. Cengiz -- Cengiz Alaettinoglu Information Sciences Institute (310) 822-1511 University of Southern California
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