Re: BGP-4+
Brandon Black <photon@nol.net> Sat, 21 December 1996 06:08 UTC
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:25:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Brandon Black <photon@nol.net>
To: Curtis Villamizar <curtis@ans.net>
Cc: Dimitry Haskin <dhaskin@baynetworks.com>, dkatz@cisco.com,
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Subject: Re: BGP-4+
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I'm foregoing quoting this whole thread again, we've all seen the other mail on this subject so far..... Now this may seem silly to some who have actually followed the v6 discussions closely, I have not. Someone please tell me if/why this is preposterous, or if any of my presumptions are wrong... Since the v6 address format is heirachical, then why not consider a certain topmost portion of the v6 address the AS or RD equivalent... i.e., a provider using AS 123 may have the prefix 12:34:56 (that may not be the right length or numbers, but this is just theory, I don't know the specifics) on all v6 addresses that will be used in that AS. We could continue to use the 16-bit AS numbers we've been using until the transition to v6 is complete (I think that it is feasible that 16 bits will last us until that point). Once the whole backbone is on v6, just discard the AS numbers, and start using the address prefixes as "Routing Domains", which is really what they are if v6 addresses are heirarchical. During the transition period, if AS's and prefixes pretty much have a one-to-one relationship, then I don't see any logistics problems with this... although certainly BGP4+ or IDRP or whatever is chosen will need to be modified to work this way.... but the modifications would be simple... instead of storing or transmitting network addresses with an AS, the network address by itself would be sufficient, since it contains the RD (prefix)... and the increased AS size of BGP4+ would be the size of that prefix...... The big hole I already see in this is of course the little unimportant company networks that want AS's because they want to be multihomed.... I don't know enough about how v6 heirarchical addresses are supposed to work in a multihomed solution to know whether this is a problem or how to solve it... Just food for thought for those who know this stuff better than I do... Brandon
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- Re: BGP-4+ Curtis Villamizar
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