Re: autosys to a PS

Sean Doran <smd@cesium.clock.org> Fri, 10 March 1995 17:56 UTC

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From: Sean Doran <smd@cesium.clock.org>
To: roll@stupi.se, yakov@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: autosys to a PS
Cc: bgp@ans.net
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:39:28 -0800

Wow, someone's getting really good at forging mail
from Peter Lothberg... :)

Peter, there are lots of people who are asking for ASes and
doing BGP for no good reason, and we are trying to stop
that trend.  If the registries can help, fine, but probably
it won't get that far, since people are coming to the
conclusion that BGP is not a good thing to run between 
an ISP and a singly-homed entity, even if it takes them
thirty or so such peerings to work that out for themselves.

BGP has other badnesses in it.  I hate it.  I wish there
was something better.  The first person who tries to argue
that IDRP as it stands now is better dies miserably.  This
means you, Bill Manning.  :)

Doling out ASes is bad news, mostly because they will just
sit there doing nothing in most cases.   Is running out a problem?
Probably not.

Finally, let me just snip this paragraph:

| I have problems with this paper, as it is used by the registrys to
| refuce people who have good technical reasons for using BGP to get an
| AS-number.

If the registries refuse people who have good technical reasons
for using BGP, the registries will get screamed at.  

I think that the registries are reasonably smart enough not to
refuse something that prima facie is technically justifiable,
and a fortiori will get them into trouble with lots of people
if they Just Say No.

Multihoming is one of the technical justifications that they
would accept.  So are most of the other reasons why any sane
person would want to run BGP.

My nits with the paper are picayune, and frankly I'm too
lazy to point them out.

	Sean.