Re: [Bier] WG adoption call for draft-chen-bier-frr-02

Tony Przygienda <> Tue, 30 March 2021 18:32 UTC

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 20:31:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Bier] WG adoption call for draft-chen-bier-frr-02
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:28 PM Michael McBride <> wrote:

> > I agree with Jeffrey. The two drafts should be merged into a new draft,
> which we will then call to adopt. I suggest that the authors of each of the
> two docs:
> A difficult road getting a draft accepted in bier lately despite seemingly
> strong consensus. We will have an -03 published in the next day or two and
> if you feel the need to issue a new adoption call please do so.

Mike, it's your interpretation AFAIS so please do not try to introduce
contention where I don't see any. Nothing "difficult" here. I think the
draft had a lot of interest and generally positive response. Not many
drafts get that, especially attention. Even better we get the previous
draft joined together so we can incorporate both models people pursue in a
clear framework. As to technical objections, they need be discussed and
resolved and/or documented clearly in the draft, that's the point of the

As per my take as simplest way forward we should join previous drafts and
republish into -huaimo-frr which will become draft-ietf-bier-frr anyway
when adopted after the merge so really, what's the difference before one
individual draft or another ending up as ietf-bier-frr except bits of
history [although I admit this may be important to some people] ;-) And of
course authorship has to be apportioned fairly so people are given clear
credit for the work and ideas. That's important.

Since the drafts are being joined I would also like the authors of merged
draft to suggest one or max two committed editors or otherwise see a clear
pen holding here, especially, even if the draft ends up informational, this
is a framework that should be well written and written in a unified way
because it will get quite a lot of reading in the ongoing years I think.


-- tony