Re: [Bier] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-bier-bar-ipa-12: (with DISCUSS)

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 19 April 2022 21:13 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>, "bier@ietf.org" <bier@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-bier-bar-ipa@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-bier-bar-ipa@ietf.org>, "bier-chairs@ietf.org" <bier-chairs@ietf.org>
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Hi Alvaro,

On Apr 19, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:aretana.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:

If a specification is not available for a specific BAR, its
value MUST be from the Private and Experimental Use range of
the registry.

Does this imply there will also be an IANA section item added reclassifying 240-254 from “Experimental Use” to “Private or Experimental Use”? (Sorry if I missed that already having been covered.)

Thanks,

—John