Re: [Bier] Deborah Brungard's Block on charter-ietf-bier-01-06: (with BLOCK)

Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Thu, 22 February 2018 01:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Bier] Deborah Brungard's Block on charter-ietf-bier-01-06: (with BLOCK)
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Deborah,

This is just the forwarding plane aspects of how to reuse the BIFT
construct.  Toerless has already reached out to TEAS for talking about it
and looking at control plane.

I agree that this clarification is needed in the charter!

Any suggestions for text?

Thanks,
Alia

On Feb 21, 2018 8:08 PM, "Deborah Brungard" <db3546@att.com> wrote:

> Deborah Brungard has entered the following ballot position for
> charter-ietf-bier-01-06: Block
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> While a Discuss, this should be simple to address as I think it's a bit of
> a misnomer
> which Alvaro has already noted.
> About:
> "8) BIER Traffic Engineering: Definition of an architecture, and
>    specification of the associated technology, for a BIER-based
>    mechanism to support traffic engineering."
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> Looking at the wg draft (which it seems this new charter item is based on),
> the draft says:
> "It does support traffic engineering by explicit hop-by-hop forwarding"
> and "it is more similar to SR than RSVP-TE".
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> So it is not TE, it is explicit forwarding. As Alvaro noted, this should
> not
> be identified in the charter as TE. I don't see any need for this new item
> to
> be in the charter (as Alvaro noted).
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> This is a Discuss because if this is not a simple misnomer, then this work
> clashes with TEAS. TEAS is chartered and responsible for
> "Traffic-engineering
> architectures for generic applicability across packet and non-packet
> networks.
> This includes both networks that include the use of PCE and those that do
> not."
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