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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 17:11:48 -0700
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Hi Hooman,
thank you for pointing this dependency out. Our intention was to use the
BIER Echo Request/Reply TLV and sub-TLV registry that is requested in
Section 5.3 of draft-ietf-bier-ping
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bier-ping-07.txt>. I'll reach
out to my co-authors of this draft to re-start our work and get it ready
for WGLC.

Regards,
Greg

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) <
hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com> wrote:

> HI Greg
>
>
>
> By the way
>
>
>
> =E2=80=9CIANA is requested to assign a new Type value for Data TLV Type f=
rom
>
>    its registry of TLV and sub-TLV Types of BIER Ping =E2=80=9C
>
>
>
> I am guessing there will be a new section added for BIER Ping in Bit
> Index Explicit Replication (BIER) (iana.org)
> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bier/bier.xhtml#bier-algorithm>?
>
>
>
> Since right now I am not seeing any of the BIER TLVs/Sub TLVs in IANA
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Hooman
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:55 PM
> *To:* Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) <hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com>
> *Cc:* BIER WG <bier@ietf.org>; BIER WG Chairs <bier-chairs@ietf.org>;
> zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn
> *Subject:* Re: [Bier] Fwd: I-D Action:
> draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.txt
>
>
>
> Hi Hooman,
>
> I am so sorry for missing your earlier email. Many thanks for your review
> and helpful suggestions. Attached, please find the copy with my answers t=
o
> your questions, the updated version of the draft, and the diff. Please le=
t
> me know if you have any further questions, suggestions to improve it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:53 AM Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) <
> hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com> wrote:
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t see any of my suggestion incorporated in the new version =
11, is
> there a reason or did you miss my email on sep-25 attached and copy paste
> below?
>
>
>
> *From:* BIER bier-bounces@ietf.org * On Behalf Of *Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia
> - CA/Ottawa)
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:46 PM
> *To:* bier-chairs@ietf.org; BIER WG bier@ietf.org;
> draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery@ietf.org
> *Cc:* zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn
> *Subject:* [Bier] Shephard of draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery
>
>
>
> Hi Authors
>
>
>
> My comments in the link below, before writing the shepherd doc please
> address these comments.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1acW5U6Yx5RS6cvhCLneyckmsRomTA3DO?=
usp=3Dsharing
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Hooman
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Hooman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Greg Mirsky
> *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 10:34 PM
> *To:* BIER WG <bier@ietf.org>; BIER WG Chairs <bier-chairs@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [Bier] Fwd: I-D Action:
> draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.txt
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> technical refresh. We are ready for the Shepherd review and comments.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:31 PM
> Subject: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.txt
> To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
> Cc: <bier@ietf.org>
>
>
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG of
> the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery (PMTUD=
)
> for Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) Layer
>         Authors         : Greg Mirsky
>                           Tony Przygienda
>                           Andrew Dolganow
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.txt
>         Pages           : 8
>         Date            : 2021-10-04
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery
>    (PMTUD) in Bit Indexed Explicit Replication (BIER) layer.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery/
>
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.htm=
l
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Hooman,<div>thank you for pointing this dependency out.=
 Our intention was to use the BIER Echo Request/Reply TLV and sub-TLV regis=
try that is requested in Section 5.3 of <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/arc=
hive/id/draft-ietf-bier-ping-07.txt">draft-ietf-bier-ping</a>. I&#39;ll rea=
ch out to my co-authors of this draft to re-start=C2=A0our work and get it =
ready for WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sa=
t, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com">hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_5915229954704947063WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>HI Greg<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<pre><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">By the way </span><span=
 style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">=E2=80=9CIANA is requested to assign a new=
 Type value for Data TLV Type from<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0 its registry of TLV and sub-TLV Typ=
es of BIER Ping =E2=80=9C<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;;color:black">I am guessing there will be a new section added =
for BIER Ping in
</span><a href=3D"https://www.iana.org/assignments/bier/bier.xhtml#bier-alg=
orithm" target=3D"_blank">Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) (iana.org)<=
/a>?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since right now I am not seeing any of the BIER TLVs=
/Sub TLVs in IANA<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hooman<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Greg Mirsky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">gregimirsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hooman=
.bidgoli@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> BIER WG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">b=
ier@ietf.org</a>&gt;; BIER WG Chairs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier-chairs@ietf=
.org" target=3D"_blank">bier-chairs@ietf.org</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:zha=
ng.zheng@zte.com.cn" target=3D"_blank">zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bier] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discov=
ery-11.txt<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Hooman,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am so sorry for missing your earlier email. Many t=
hanks for your review and helpful suggestions. Attached, please find the co=
py with my answers to your questions, the updated version of the draft, and=
 the diff. Please let me know if you
 have any further questions, suggestions to improve it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:53 AM Bidgoli, Hooman (Noki=
a - CA/Ottawa) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t see any of my suggestion incorporate=
d in the new version 11, is there a reason or did you miss my email on sep-=
25 attached and copy paste below?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> BIER
<a href=3D"mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier-bounces@iet=
f.org</a> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:bier-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier-c=
hairs@ietf.org</a>; BIER WG
<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.org</a>; <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>
draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn" target=3D"_blank">zhan=
g.zheng@zte.com.cn</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bier] Shephard of draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery</span=
><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Authors
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">My comments in the link below, =
before writing the shepherd doc please address these comments.</span><u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://drive.google=
.com/drive/folders/1acW5U6Yx5RS6cvhCLneyckmsRomTA3DO?usp=3Dsharing" target=
=3D"_blank">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1acW5U6Yx5RS6cvhCLneyckm=
sRomTA3DO?usp=3Dsharing</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hooman</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hooman<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> BIER &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">bier-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Mirsky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 4, 2021 10:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BIER WG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">b=
ier@ietf.org</a>&gt;; BIER WG Chairs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier-chairs@ietf=
.org" target=3D"_blank">bier-chairs@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bier] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-=
11.txt</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear All,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">technical refresh. We are ready for the Shepherd rev=
iew and comments.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Greg<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>
From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">int=
ernet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:31 PM<br>
Subject: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.txt<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">i-d-anno=
unce@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.org</a=
>&gt;<u></u><u></u></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG of the=
 IETF.<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery (PMTUD) for Bit Index Explicit Re=
plication (BIER) Layer<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Greg=
 Mirsky<br>
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=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tony Przygienda<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Andrew Dolganow<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet=
f-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11.txt<br>
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 2021-10-04<br>
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Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discove=
ry<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(PMTUD) in Bit Indexed Explicit Replication (BIER) layer.<br>
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The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discov=
ery/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-pa=
th-mtu-discovery/</a><br>
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There is also an HTML version available at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discove=
ry-11.html" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bi=
er-path-mtu-discovery-11.html</a><br>
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A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-dis=
covery-11" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf=
-bier-path-mtu-discovery-11</a><br>
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<br>
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br>
<a href=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp=
.ietf.org/internet-drafts/</a><br>
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