Re: [Bier] Regarding draft-chen-pce-bier

ah, ok. nope, we all good, we have more than enough work to do ;-) And the
folks doing the work will be in both groups anyway ...

thanks for sync'ing up ...

-- tony

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:50 PM Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> The charter text in BIER is about coordination and collaboration with
> other WGs.
>
> "The BIER-WG will coordinate and collaborate with other WGs as needed.
>> ...
>> * pce on extensions to program BIER forwarding on the BFIRs..."
>
>
> This was our attempt to do "coordination and collaboration" :)
>
> PCE WG relies on the requirements coming from other WGs (SPRING, PIM, TEAS
> etc) as that is where the expertise is. Since this was our first BIER
> related document we want to make sure there are no objections to this work
> from BIER WG and that we are not jumping ahead with PCEP extension work in
> an untimely fashion.
>
> Thanks!
> Dhruv
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 7:03 PM Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dhruv, then I either just skimmed over your email or it wasn't clear but
>> ultimately I'm lost why you need BIER WG at all here. We do have charter in
>> BIER for that so I assume you wanted it adopted in BIER but if you'd like
>> that in PCE, sure, fine place as well, go ahead and adopt there.
>>
>> I don't see what we have to do really since I'm not sure what "early
>> feedback" should be. Per process send it for early review before LC once
>> it's considered in decent state by your WG ...
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> -- tony
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:23 PM Dhruv Dhody <dd@dhruvdhody.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi BIER WG,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the active support but we just wanted to clarify that this
>>> draft is meant to be homed in the PCE WG. The current thread should not be
>>> considered as an official adoption call. The aim of the original message
>>> was to get early feedback from the BIER WG - Is this draft ready to be
>>> considered for WG adoption in PCE WG, as per the requirement of BIER-TE?
>>>
>>> Based on this input the PCE chairs will add the I-D in the adoption
>>> queue and will issue the adoption call on the PCE WG mailing list in due
>>> time. We will make sure to keep the BIER WG in the loop.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dhruv & Julien
>>> PCE WG co-chairs
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:20 PM Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, we need to start adoption call building on the mailing list here
>>>> for the according PCE draft
>>>>
>>>> Please state support/concern about this becoming a WG item
>>>>
>>>> As to our charter, I think it's well covered
>>>>
>>>> "* pce on extensions to program BIER forwarding on the BFIRs,and"
>>>>
>>>> As WG member I state +1 for adoption
>>>>
>>>> -- tony
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 8:22 PM Dhruv Dhody <dd@dhruvdhody.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello BIER WG, cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> The authors of [1] which was presented at both PCE and BIER WG had
>>>>> asked for WG adoption at PCE WG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we add the document in the PCE WG adoption queue, we request
>>>>> early feedback from BIER to make sure that this work is ready to be taken
>>>>> up by the PCE WG.  We are tracking these at [2].
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Dhruv & Julien
>>>>> PCE WG co-chairs
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-pce-bier/
>>>>> [2] https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/pce/coordination#multicast
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