Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-04.txt
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 12 March 2020 19:02 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-04.txt
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On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:22:08AM -0700, Tony Przygienda wrote: > Nagendra, IP-FRR is an interesting observation. There is no reason why LL > cannot be protected by another non-LL nexthop but it may not be as natural > as otherwise. > > As I said, no problem in softenting the draft from SHOULD to something else > as long we allow both LL and non-LL addressing. > The driver to LL & NHOP=1 > was mainly to have people misunderstand that BIER can be forwarded all over > the place by default which will lead to a valley of tears long term albeit > it looks like a great idea first. parsing failed. Can you plsease rephrase ? > BIER is a switching fabric technology @ > L2.5 and not an overlay (and yes, it can be used that way but this is IMO > jsut as far from BIER as BESS is from idr ;-) See my other discuss point about the IMHO most 'useful' modes of deployment/forwarding. Those would be good to discuss in the drafts. Partial or full deployment of BIER with IPv6 encap: BIFR-to-BFER IPv6 encapsulated, per-BIER-hop rewrite of IPv6 header No differnce between partial or full deployment, should work automatically calculating remote next-hop in partial. Partial L2 BIER encap support Recommend not to use, but use IPv6 encap, as IPv6 encap/decap might more likely be impacting performance. Full L2 BIER encap support determined by BFIR from IGP info, then ue L2 encap. Cheers Toerless
- [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-04.t… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… zhang.zheng
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand)
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… IJsbrand Wijnands
- Re: [Bier] comments for draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-… Toerless Eckert