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Re: [Bier] BIER rechartering

"Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG/Singapore)" <andrew.dolganow@nokia.com> Wed, 24 January 2018 06:16 UTC

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From: "Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG/Singapore)" <andrew.dolganow@nokia.com>
To: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
CC: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>, "bier@ietf.org" <bier@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Bier] BIER rechartering
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Tony,

Sure, all I want to do is not to preclude or limit solutions, as long as we do that and capture the work without that I am ok.

Andrew

From: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 4:28 PM
To: Andrew Dolganow <andrew.dolganow@nokia.com>
Cc: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>, "bier@ietf.org" <bier@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Bier] BIER rechartering

Hey Mr A,  I see 2 separate points here

1) if we talk "let's do something for v6 no silicon BIER forwarding" that's one charter point & I think it's fine
2) if we talk about "let's talk about BIERoANYTHING as long it's 1-hop fwd' paradigm" then I'm fine with adding that as well albeit I admit I think with Ether & MPLS we have practical cases I see licked for some foreseable future (maybe the famous penultimate words ;-)
-- tony

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG/Singapore) <andrew.dolganow@nokia.com<mailto:andrew.dolganow@nokia.com>> wrote:
Tony,

This is discussion on charter not individual draft. We did have some good discussion on the draft below as reflected by minutes. My comment is that the charter as proposed limits potential solutions unnecessarily. I propose we remove trhe limiting condition “Such functionality may focus on assuming software or slow-path support first” from the charter.

Andrew

From: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com<mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:00 PM
To: Andrew Dolganow <andrew.dolganow@nokia.com<mailto:andrew.dolganow@nokia.com>>
Cc: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>, "bier@ietf.org<mailto:bier@ietf.org>" <bier@ietf.org<mailto:bier@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [Bier] BIER rechartering



Ad> Can we say “in co-operation with IETF WGs chartered with IGP protocol ownership”  instead of “in cooperation with the LSR WG”. DO not want to re-charter in case we change/modify/merge/evolve other WGs.

The BIER-WG is additionally chartered to start Standards Track work on:
  7) BIER in IPv6 :  A mechanism to use BIER natively in IPv6 may be
     standardized if coordinated with the 6MAN WG and with understood
     applicability.  Such functionality may focus on assuming software or
     slow-path support first.
Ad> I do not think we should limit unnecessarily the solution or open doors for things that are possible (anything can be done in S/W) but potentially of little value. SO if someone brings a proposal for slow-path BIER we will evaluate on usefulness to use case being solved.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-bier-bierin6-00

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