Re: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-te-isis-01.txt

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "bier@ietf.org" <bier@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-te-isis-01.txt
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Huaimo -

Thanx for addressing my comments so quickly.

Changes look fine - but I do have one question.

You eliminated the text:

> "Note that if each of BitPosition
>    and DrEndBitPosition uses more than 2 octets, we use 4 or more octets
>    for each of them."

Does this mean you have no need to ever support more than 16 bits in these fields??

   Les

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Huaimo Chen
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 7:59 PM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>;
> bier@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-te-isis-01.txt
> 
> Hi Les,
> 
>     Thank you very much for your valuable comments.
>     I have addressed them in the updated draft (uploaded).
>     My responses are also inline below with [HC].
> 
> Best Regards,
> Huaimo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: bier@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-te-isis-01.txt
> 
> Some pedantic comments on this draft:
> 
> For the new BIER-TE sub-TLV:
> 
> 1)The relevant registry has been renamed to be "IS-IS Sub-TLVs for TLVs
> Advertising Neighbor Information". Please use this new name.
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> [HC]: I have renamed it as you suggested.
> 
> 2)Please do NOT insert padding to keep content aligned on a 4 byte
> boundary. This may be useful for OSPF, but it is not for IS-IS as TLVs are NOT
> aligned inside an LSP. All you are doing is wasting space - which is precious in
> IS-IS given the limited LSP space.
> [HC]: Removed padding.
> 
> 3)You say in Section 2:
> 
> "Note that if each of BitPosition
>    and DrEndBitPosition uses more than 2 octets, we use 4 or more octets
>    for each of them."
> 
> I do not see how the receiver of the sub-TLV could tell whether the 2 octet or
> 4 octet encoding was sent as you have nothing that specifies the length of
> these fields.
> You can't use the total length of the sub-TLV as it could include optional sub-
> sub-TLVs.
> 
> ??
> [HC]: Deleted the quoted text.
> 
> 4)In IANA section, I do not know why you specified "N" for TLVs 23 and 223.
> While RFC 5311 (which defines these TLVs) is not popular, if there was an
> implementation, I see no reason why it should be invalid to send the BIER-TE
> info in these TLVs.
> [HC]: Changed "n" to "y" for TLVs 23 and 223.
> 
> Thanx.
> 
>     Les
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-te-isis-01.txt
> >
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG of the
> IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : IS-IS Extensions for BIER-TE
> >         Authors         : Huaimo Chen
> >                           Mike McBride
> >                           Aijun Wang
> >                           Gyan S. Mishra
> >                           Yanhe Fan
> >                           Lei Liu
> >                           Xufeng Liu
> >   Filename        : draft-ietf-bier-te-isis-01.txt
> >   Pages           : 7
> >   Date            : 2022-07-29
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document describes IS-IS extensions for distributing
> >    BitPositions configured on the links in "Bit Index Explicit
> >    Replication Traffic Engineering" (BIER-TE) domain.
> >
> >
> >
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