[Bier] 回复: Call For Adoption: draft-zhang-bier-bierin6

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Hi WG,

 

+1 with Mike and Adrian.

>From the view of an operator, I think both solutions are technically reasonable and should be adopted as experimental at this stage. Further implementation and deployment will give more feedback to WG for further discussion. Thanks.

B.R.

Zhu Yonging

 

发件人: bier-bounces@ietf.org <bier-bounces@ietf.org> 代表 Gyan Mishra
发送时间: 2021年2月27日 0:07
收件人: adrian@olddog.co.uk
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主题: Re: [Bier] Call For Adoption: draft-zhang-bier-bierin6

 

As a co-author of both drafts I am in agreement with Adrian’s comment on suspending the adoption call.

 

Gyan

 

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 7:20 AM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk> > wrote:

Since Mike invoked me, I’ll make my adoption comments in response to his mail.

 

Looking back at the list, I saw a couple of +1s to my suggestion, and a mumble from an author of draft-zhang-bier-bierin6 about Experimental not being fair.

 

I’m surprised to see this adoption poll without first resolving the debate about precedence of I-Ds and not even an announcement from the chairs about a plan for how the two I-Ds will be progressed. Adoption, IMHO, is not about whether a draft is technically ready, but about how the WG wants to address a topic. I don’t think we have resolved that question, and so I think an adoption poll on one draft only appears to be prejudging that debate.

 

So I would like us to suspend this adoption poll and sort ourselves out first.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

From: BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org> > On Behalf Of Michael McBride
Sent: 26 February 2021 06:15
To: gjshep@gmail.com <mailto:gjshep@gmail.com> ; BIER WG <bier@ietf.org <mailto:bier@ietf.org> >
Subject: Re: [Bier] Call For Adoption: draft-zhang-bier-bierin6

 

Oppose.

 

We are unfortunately no where near consensus on this topic including this draft. We’ll likely see that during this adoption call.

 

Adrian’s suggestion for consensus remains the best I’ve heard: simultaneously call to adopt both solutions as experimental.

 

mike

 

From: BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org> > On Behalf Of Greg Shepherd
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:37 AM
To: BIER WG <bier@ietf.org <mailto:bier@ietf.org> >
Subject: [Bier] Call For Adoption: draft-zhang-bier-bierin6

 

Thank you all for the active discussion that brought us to consensus. This draft now addresses all of the points of discussion for the solution. 

 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-bier-bierin6/ <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-zhang-bier-bierin6%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmichael.mcbride%40futurewei.com%7C7aecd20ae06a4b6a300a08d8d9aba70d%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637498678569221968%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=IV22zVnPbym%2FJTZljh%2FLGNUqxFp4zZKJWcHBTx9a%2BPY%3D&reserved=0> 

 

Please reply to this thread with your support/opposition of WG adoption of the draft.

 

Thanks,

Shep

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