Re: [Bier] In reply to the formal complaints
Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> Thu, 03 June 2021 11:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Bier] In reply to the formal complaints
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Thanks you Martin for your time and effort. I will send our summary on a dedicated thread for discussion Cheers, Greg On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 6:29 AM Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> wrote: > WG > > First, I'd like to apologize for the time this has taken. > > I have reviewed the two formal complaints that were sent early March, > and I have also reviewed most of the e-mails that were sent on the bier > mailing list for the past 12 months or so, relating to BIER and IPv6. > > I will not individually discuss the various points raised, rather I will > make a general statement. > > It is my opinion that a certain number of points are not critical (in > the sense of not needing an AD to step-in) and some typically happen > sometimes as part of the life cycle of WGs. Yet, I do recognize that > some points are more problematic than others. > Further, it is my opinion that the points listed may arise from a > variety of intentions and as such it is hazardous to associate them with > a particular one. > It is however my opinion that the multiplicity of concerns is, in > itself, a concern. > I have talked with the chairs. They do recognize that, at some > occasions, their communication was not the most effective one, and I > trust they will pay attention to that in the future. > > About the adoption poll on draft-zhang-bier-bierin6. Although the way > this was handled raised some concerns, I'd like to remind that an > adoption poll is not formally part of our processes, even if it is > common practice, and in fact it only marks the start of the WG > discussion. As such, I have little arguments to go back on this. > > The last part is about the progress of a so-called BIER v6 solution. > Here, I have asked the chairs to establish a summary of the discussions > regarding that type of solution in general and regarding the specific > document which proposes a solution. They should publish it some time > after this e-mail. > > Following that, it is my expectation that the WG has a fair and open > discussion, ideally focussing on the general aspects, and then concludes > on the way forward. > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > BIER mailing list > BIER@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier >
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