Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" prediction
Tim Bass <bass@linux.silkroad.com> Thu, 25 July 1996 16:22 UTC
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From: Tim Bass <bass@linux.silkroad.com>
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Subject: Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" prediction
To: Per Gregers Bilse <bilse@eu.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:00:49 -0400
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In-Reply-To: <199607251450.AA14249@jotun.EU.net> from "Per Gregers Bilse" at Jul 25, 96 04:50:42 pm
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PGB replies: > No, don't forget Dr. Metcalfe's definition of a collapse: "... when > more than 50,000 people are denied their Internet access for more > than an hour, let's call it an Internet collapse, ...". By that > definition the Internet has died when 100k people get no response > from IBM's WWW servers. The same standard could also be applies to voice calls and busy signal or 'all circuits are busy' messages (which I get during discount times to Germany daily calling my family); but this is not the 'collapse of the PSTN' ! :-) Let's don't worry about "what Dr. Metcalfe" says, how-bout-it? and think what is pragmatic and useful. One of the interesting situations of a 'technocratic paradigm' is the perception that one who is advance in one aspect of a very broad field (such as Ethernet and Internetworking) is an expert on all expects of the entire field; which is humanly impossible. This is precisely why there are "System Engineers" , "Software Engineering", "Hardware Engineers" and subspecialists in every one of these areas. I find it amusing that we need Dr. Metcalfe to formula opinions of the future of IP internetworking based on his substantial and significant contributions to IEEE 802. This is not to take away from the important contribution of Dr. Metcalfe; but one grain of sand does not make a beach, nor a grain of salt make an ocean... Certainly a noted contribution to the engineering field with regard to networking does not make an omnipotent oracle for internetworking.... just like doing BGP4 on a daily basis does not make one the 'expert of all IP routing paradigms' (contrary to popular perception). Regards and ^Z, Tim -- We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, Running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here. -Roger Waters
- Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" predic… George Michaelson
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Michael Dillon
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Tim Bass
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Matthew James Marnell
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Michael Shields
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Per Gregers Bilse
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Tim Bass
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Tim Bass
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Dave Crocker
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… George Michaelson
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Kent W. England
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Randy Bush
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Michael Dillon
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Dave Crocker
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… George Michaelson
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Jeremy Porter
- Re: Metcalfes "imminent death of the internet" pr… Geoff Huston