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Re: [Bimi] Alternate proposal

Ken O'Driscoll <ken@wemonitoremail.com> Thu, 21 July 2022 20:57 UTC

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I make no claim that they do address the hard parts either.

The point I was attempting to make was that an open dialogue that doesn't cite a DMARC dependency or the sunk cost fallacy of code already written, may produce a better proposed standard. Even if one or both of those elements inform that proposed standard, it will come from a more considered place than where we are now.

Ken.
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From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
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Subject: Re: [Bimi] Alternate proposal

On 7/21/2022 12:29 PM, Ken O'Driscoll wrote:
> So, integrating BIMI with a PKI or web-of-trust seems like an idea at
> least worth discussing.

 From the start of the Bimi effort, a fundamental issue has been the
nature of the trust model and how to make it work at scale -- that is,
across country and organization boundaries and across the globe.  For
usage of marks, in the absence of an international mechanism for
authorizing them and resolving disputes about them

It's not obvious to me how the mechanisms you have cited resolve the
hard parts of that issue.

d/

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