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Re: [Bimi] draft-bkl-bimi-overview-00

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Mon, 18 March 2019 13:56 UTC

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From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 06:55:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Bimi] draft-bkl-bimi-overview-00
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Benefits to receiver/operators are clear: no more roll your own logo
scraping systems are needed.

Benefits elsewhere are less clear even though you called them in the doc.

--Kurt

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 14:14 John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> In article <CAOZAAfOKm=NO4w=GwgxMLcqYKkkHgh00NSd5spFBs-5tp=
> QH_w@mail.gmail.com> you write:
> >> recipients. I think it should also identify that there are potential
> >> benefits to receivers and operators of MUAs too.
>
> I would want to see more than speculation there.  As Dave Crocker
> often reminds us, human factor research has made it clear that most
> humans are completely unable to do anything useful with security
> indicators.  That's one of the reasons that browsers aren't showing EV
> cert indicators any more, and have made it a lot harder to click
> through invalid cert warnings.
>
> I'm not aware of any research specifically about indicators on mail
> messages.  Perhaps that would be a good place to toss some money at
> academic researchers.
>
> R's,
> John
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