RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-06.txt
David Newman <dnewman@networktest.com> Wed, 21 May 2003 21:53 UTC
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From: David Newman <dnewman@networktest.com>
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Subject: RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-06.txt
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> - Suggest changing the "Channel Capacity" term to "Flow Capacity" or "CoS > Capacity." The definition as it stands today is practically identical to > the throughput definition. Where is "channel" defined? Channel is such a > vague term. I can see cofusion when this term is discuss in context with > channelized interfaces. The term "channel capacity" was introduced on this list in early 2000 by John Dawson. It has been used since in most bmwg discussions of *bandwidth* capacity. This is a different concept than throughput. "Flow capacity" and "QOS capacity" have problems of their own. For example, "flow capacity" could refer to the number of concurrent sessions a device can handle. That may also be a valid metric, but it's a different one than channel (bandwidth) capacity. Similarly, "QOS capacity" could refer to number of queues or number of DSCP markings a box can apply or other aspects of QOS unrelated to bandwidth. Also, a historical note: This document started life with much more liberal use of the term "QOS" but Geoff Huston, Randy Bush, and many others objected to the term because it's too vague. > "4. Forwarding Delay can be measured at any offered load, > whereas the latency methodology [Br99] recommends measurement > at, and only at, the throughput level. Comparing the > Forwarding Delay below the throughput to Forwarding Delay > above the channel capacity will give insight to the traffic > control mechanisms." > > To > > "4. Forwarding Delay can be measured at any offered load. > Comparing the > Forwarding Delay below the throughput to Forwarding Delay > above the channel capacity will give insight to the traffic > control mechanisms." > > There is no reason to compare to the latency methodology. The differences > have already been discussed. We very much do need a comparison with the historical use of latency. We need to distinguish whether we are: 1. below the tput level; 2. at the tput level; or 3. above the tput level Since 2544 covers only (2) above, we need to distinguish what is different with this new metric. > 3.3.2 Out-of-order Packet > - Suggest change "Out-of-order Packet" to "Out-of-Sequence Packet". The > latter term is use much more pervasively in the technical community. Don't necessarily disagree, but there are multiple definitions of "sequence" and it's not clear which one you mean. dn _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg
- [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-06.t… Al Morton
- RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-… Tony DeLaRosa
- RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-… David Newman
- RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-… Tony DeLaRosa
- RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-… David Newman
- RE: [bmwg] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-dsmterm-… Perser, Jerry