Re: [bmwg] Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on draft-ietf-bmwg-sdn-controller-benchmark-meth-08: (with COMMENT)
"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com> Thu, 19 April 2018 14:30 UTC
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From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com>
To: Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "Suresh
Krishnan" <suresh@kaloom.com>
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Thread-Topic: Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on
draft-ietf-bmwg-sdn-controller-benchmark-meth-08: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [bmwg] Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on
draft-ietf-bmwg-sdn-controller-benchmark-meth-08: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Ignas and Suresh (who supported this comment), > -----Original Message----- > From: Ignas Bagdonas [mailto:ibagdona@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:51 AM ... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The document seems to assume the OpenFlow dataplane abstraction model – which > is one of the possible models; the practical applicability of such model to > anything beyond experimental deployments is a completely separate question > outside of the scope of this document. The methodology tends to apply to a > broader set of central control based systems, and not only to the data plane > operations – therefore the document seems to be setting at least something > practically usable for benchmarking of such central control systems. Possibly > the document could mention such assumptions made about the overall model where > the methodology defined applies to. [acm] That's a good wording suggestion, it certainly captures the working group consensus to prepare the methods independent from OpenFlow, for wider applicability. However, we also received feedback from Stuart Bryant seeking *more* message specificity (appended below, see * ), which is not really possible for the general methods. Please try to strike a balance between these comments in discussion today, if possible! Al doc shepherd -=-=-=-=- Stuart's comment-=-=-=-=-=- 2.3.1.3. Asynchronous Message Processing Rate Definition: The number responses to asynchronous messages (such as new flow SB> That should be the number of responses per second. Discussion: As SDN assures flexible network and agile provisioning, it is important to measure how many network events the controller can handle at a time. This benchmark is obtained by sending asynchronous messages from every connected Network Device at the rate that the controller processes (without dropping them). SB> So what you are testing here is the control network and the SB> controller. This is perhaps the only practical way to run the SB> test, but it seems a pity that you do not deconvolve these SB> two aspects of the test. SB> SB> I suppose this is really network Async Msg Proc rate rather than SB> controller Async proc rate. SB> *SB> We may get to this in the companion document, but doesn't there *SB> need to be some standardization of the event message to compare *SB> apple with apples over time? > > A nit: s/Khasanov Boris/Boris Khasanov, unless Boris himself would insist > otherwise. >
- [bmwg] Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on draft-ietf… Ignas Bagdonas
- Re: [bmwg] Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on draft-… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)