Re: [bmwg] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-bmwg-virtual-net-04: (with COMMENT)

"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acmorton@att.com> Thu, 16 March 2017 04:01 UTC

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Thread-Topic: Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-bmwg-virtual-net-04: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [bmwg] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-bmwg-virtual-net-04: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks for your comments, Ben.
Replies below,
Al

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> Subject: Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-bmwg-virtual-net-04:
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> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-bmwg-virtual-net-04: No Objection
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> I have a few mostly editorial comments:
> 
> - Abstract and Introduction: Missing "the" before "Benchmarking..."
> 
> -Abstract: Will the paragraph about new version history stay in the
> RFC?
[ACM] 
no, the version history usually goes, too.

> 
> -1: Much of this section, especially the 2nd paragraph, reads like a
> commercial, or a marketing white paper. I'm not going to put this in the
> way of publication, but an IETF RFC should generally take a more neutral
> tone. It's enough to acknowledge that people are doing (or plan to do)
> NFV.
> 
> -2: Language of the form of "BMG will consider" will quickly become
> dated. Consider something to the effect of "At the time of this writing,
> BMG is considering/plans to consider..."
[ACM] 
OK, that's fine.
> 
> Can you offer a definition or citation for "bare metal"?
[ACM] 
I first read this term in the context of hypervisor categories,
where Type 1 runs directly on the host hardware, called native or bare metal.
Type 2 is a hosted Hypervisor, running on the host OS (e.g., VBox).

Wikipedia provides this early citation:
Popek, Gerald J.; Goldberg, Robert P. (1974). "Formal requirements for virtualizable third generation architectures". Communications of the ACM. 17 (7): 412–421. doi:10.1145/361011.361073. Retrieved 2015-03-01.

"bare metal" has come to mean the compute hardware, 
a non-virtualized compute environment,
following acceptance of these hypervisor categories.
> 
> "Also,  benchmarking combinations of physical and virtual devices and
> functions in a System Under Test.": Sentence fragment.
[ACM] 
will fix
> 
> - 4.2, first paragraph, last sentence: Can you offer a citation for the
> 4x3 matrix?
> :
 [ACM] 
The 3x4 matrix was first developed in this document, by the BMWG.

The original 3x3 matrix goes back to ANSI X3.102 Standard,
"User-Oriented Data Communications Framework", in the 1980s.

Someone from NTIA/ITS gave a talk including this matrix at IETF-38,
in the RTFM WG (possibly Neal Seitz):
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/38/ops/rtfm-2/sld014.htm

I'll add a citation for the 3x3 Matrix.