Re: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104

"MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acm@research.att.com> Tue, 26 March 2019 20:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104
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I have posted all the slides received,
see you tomorrow!
Al

From: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 2:36 PM
To: bmwg@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104

BMWG,

Agenda development has slowed,
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bmwg/
and now we have the next steps:

@Presenters:
Send your slides to mailto:bmwg-chairs@ietf.org
by Tuesday, March 26, 18:00 CET.
You should send PDF versions, as this is the format we upload
and display during the meeting. You may also send .pptx, if
you want suggestions/feedback.

@All Authors:
Everyone wants their draft reviewed, so they receive useful comments!
You can all help each-other out in this area:

*        READ another author-team's draft and provide comments on the list

*        You may make some friends who will review your drafts

*        You may learn something that you can apply to your work

I do this and I find it useful, so I pass it along.
It's one way that the world goes 'round...

@Everyone:
There are lots of ways to participate and make our session time more
productive. Some of the most useful exchanges start with a question or
comment shared by e-mail. I've had some fun/useful exchanges with
"friends I've never met". Most of us are drawn to BMWG because we
have expertise, and we like to share it.

Thanks for productive session preparation, and see you in Prague!
Al
bmwg co-chair


From: bmwg [mailto:bmwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 8:20 AM
To: bmwg@ietf.org<mailto:bmwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104

Agenda now indicates the informal discussion to follow:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bmwg/03/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_agenda-2D104-2Dbmwg_03_&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=Yr3XZ5SQ8ZGwYcrjhkO3iyUcwi34PQZ3uRfq60cuN5k&s=6b3wOYpF_lYz1q_DLcKxYv3bVWUACbbolcqsv6G8Cf0&e=>


From: bmwg [mailto:bmwg-bounces@ietf..org] On Behalf Of MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:57 AM
To: bmwg@ietf.org<mailto:bmwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104

BMWG,

The Draft Agenda as of this morning US EDT, is posted:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bmwg/02/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.proofpoint..com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fdatatracker.ietf.org-5Fdoc-5Fagenda-2D2D104-2D2Dbmwg-5F02-5F-26d-3DDwMFAg-26c-3DLFYZ-2Do9-5FHUMeMTSQicvjIg-26r-3DOfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw-26m-3DWSqcvpTlQ3HJyf-2DjugVOI6Spn7wav2dmc9bUuRhdGWA-26s-3DtLaovXNEIP0khqXhVMXmgMrRF1MGQBWjBwGvnfipoT0-26e-3D&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=Yr3XZ5SQ8ZGwYcrjhkO3iyUcwi34PQZ3uRfq60cuN5k&s=lPAMVahrGUUMWDuDLcPrSe-mL9IZQrLm62trVj57zxE&e=>

We have a *very full* agenda, with several authors
intending to *share test data*.  This is a great opportunity
to advance our understanding of many proposals,
and it will probably take more than our 2 hour session
to fully appreciate and discuss the contributions.

So... we are lucky that scheduling provides a possible
and slightly innovative solution.  I will post a proposal
in another message to follow. Meanwhile, like the Agenda says:

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     P L E A S E    R E A D   T H E   D R A F T S  ! ! ! !
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

regards,
Al
bmwg co-chair


From: bmwg [mailto:bmwg-bounces@ietf..org] On Behalf Of MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:24 AM
To: Maciek Konstantynowicz (mkonstan) <mkonstan@cisco.com<mailto:mkonstan@cisco.com>>
Cc: bmwg@ietf.org<mailto:bmwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104

Thanks for the updates, Maciek.

I saw the new draft on PLResearch, because it uses
draft-***-bmwg- in the file name, and added that one to
the agenda.

Unfortunately, the other drafts don't use the
draft-lastname-bmwg- format, and I didn't see them
when I checked this morning.

So, we need another agenda update, and that will be
tomorrow.

Thanks for including the proposed topics in the format
of our agenda - makes my work a little easier!

regards, and see you in Prague,
Al


From: Maciek Konstantynowicz (mkonstan) [mailto:mkonstan@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:04 AM
To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com<mailto:acm@research.att.com>>
Cc: bmwg@ietf.org<mailto:bmwg@ietf.org>; Vratko Polak -X (vrpolak - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco) <vrpolak@cisco.com<mailto:vrpolak@cisco.com>>
Subject: Re: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104

Hi Al,

We would like ask for the following to be added to BMWG IETF-104 agenda:

Continuing Proposals:

  Probabilistic Loss Ratio Search for Packet Throughput (PLRsearch)
    (includes test results from FD.io<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__FD.io&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=ks4BbI5uHBA-X1uXXS41ypy6lOjJ9b9TdPMgPFzmWS4&e=> CSIT)
    Presenters: Vratko Polak, Maciek Konstantynowicz
    Related Draft:
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vpolak-bmwg-plrsearch-01<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dvpolak-2Dbmwg-2Dplrsearch-2D01&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=B6Y4LCJS1xcLRB8XJfF_n7LM-TjxPbZgJ96toLM3FFQ&e=>

  Multiple Loss Ratio Search for Packet Throughput (MLRsearch)
    (includes test results from FD.io<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__FD.io&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=ks4BbI5uHBA-X1uXXS41ypy6lOjJ9b9TdPMgPFzmWS4&e=> CSIT)
    Presenters: Vratko Polak, Maciek Konstantynowicz
    Related Draft:
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vpolak-mkonstan-bmwg-mlrsearch-00<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dvpolak-2Dmkonstan-2Dbmwg-2Dmlrsearch-2D00&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=H3ymb1HSWXWOsRLUIW3o1usCMolTRGRppa3JbpABCh0&e=>


NEW Proposals:

  NFV Service Density Benchmarking
    (includes test results from FD.io<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__FD.io&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=ks4BbI5uHBA-X1uXXS41ypy6lOjJ9b9TdPMgPFzmWS4&e=> CSIT and CNCF CNF Testbed)
    Presenter: Maciek Konstantynowicz
    Related Draft:
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mkonstan-nf-service-density-00<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dmkonstan-2Dnf-2Dservice-2Ddensity-2D00&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=YxHP64mdtuG692qrT6KU4Mprus33uk_dZFCvFqVzUvA&e=>

Cheers,
-Maciek

On 12 Mar 2019, at 12:24, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com<mailto:acm@research.att.com>> wrote:

I received many new inputs for the agenda
after posting the first draft, yesterday.

Thanks to everyone who helped!

the revised agenda is now posted:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-bmwg-01<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_meeting_104_materials_agenda-2D104-2Dbmwg-2D01&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=wiQfpj40ATofBjHU8Kcg6pi9bdfS9H7t6tVymS3KEUI&e=>

Al
bmwg co-chair
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:40 AM
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Subject: [bmwg] Draft Agenda for BMWG at IETF-104


BMWG,

The draft agenda is available here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-bmwg-00<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_meeting_104_materials_agenda-2D104-2Dbmwg-2D00&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=_6cen3Hn-e_hOm0BhY7aIpA58dd19Z9qGQsr8-6zYMI&m=LKmffvfqDFajtowmghK51wnd9vxX0cBy75ecm7zogpY&s=5LN2koSLdxmILD9EqdpQ1osfmFsBDl80h5V89nRSC2c&e=>

Any early Agenda Bashes?
Are there more drafts coming today?
More requests for agenda slots to discuss drafts?

Reply to the list and let us know,
Al and Sarah
bmwg co-chairs


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