Re: [Bridge-mib] FW: Please review and comment: draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t

"Tom Petch" <nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com> Mon, 05 January 2004 20:32 UTC

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From: "Tom Petch" <nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com>
To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>, "Bridge-Mib (E-mail)" <bridge-mib@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] FW: Please review and comment: draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t
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I did say overload:-)  DateAndTime I think a good choice of name, quite
short (11 characters) no abbreviations, well known words that are unlikely
to be misspelt or misremembered.  It does not, for example, try to convey
its particular characteristics, such as the accuracy in seconds or the
presentation of the year (which is what distinguishes it from similar TCs).

VlanIdOrNoneOrAny? rather long to always get right; on my Windows client,
the l of Vlan is the same as the I of Id; repetition of Or another
opportunity to get confused; other similar TCs (in Disman) have OrZero as
opposed to OrNone (which is better English IMO)

I respond because I do think this non-technical issue matters, that it is a
sometimes serious mistake when people invent names, making the name
difficult to read and write, say and hear, leading to errors and
misunderstandings, perhaps thinking they will be unable to remember what it
means, which with time is actually the easy part.

Tom Petch
-----Original Message-----
From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) <bwijnen@lucent.com>
To: Tom Petch <nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com>om>; Bridge-Mib (E-mail)
<bridge-mib@ietf.org>
Date: 04 January 2004 10:46
Subject: RE: [Bridge-mib] FW: Please review and comment:
draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t


>Inline
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Petch [mailto:nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com]
>> Sent: vrijdag 2 januari 2004 12:32
>> To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert); Bridge-Mib (E-mail)
>> Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] FW: Please review and comment:
>> draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t
>>
>> No thoughts on whether the TC should exist or no.
>>
>> But if it does, then keep the name simple, don't overload the
>> name, the identifier, with a description of the semantics
>>
>MMm... if we look at for example DateAndTime TC, does that not give
>similar semantics in the name? I am sure there are many others
>that do so too.
>
>> ie VlanIdentifier VlanIds VlanId2 .. good
>> VlanIdOrNone VlanIdOrNoneOrAny VlanIdAssociation   .. bad
>>
>Bert
>> Tom Petch


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