[Bridge-mib] RE: VLAn ID
"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> Fri, 06 June 2003 15:33 UTC
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From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
To: Tony Jeffree <tony@jeffree.co.uk>
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 17:30:14 +0200
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Subject: [Bridge-mib] RE: VLAn ID
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Tony... am I copy-ing the mailing lists on which we discussed this, so that people can chime in Thanks, Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk] > Sent: vrijdag 6 juni 2003 17:16 > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > Subject: RE: VLAn ID > > > Bert et al - > > We have concluded that the use of 4095 as a wildcard is acceptable to > 802.1, and we will make any necessary changes to 802.1Q in > due course to > relax the current stated restriction. However, we need to > know whether that > is all that needs to be done to 802.1Q - i.e., is there any > need to change > our definitions of the managed objects in the document (Clause 12) to > reflect the interpretation of 4095 as a wildcard, or is this > simply an > issue for the SNMP machinery to handle? > > Regards, > Tony > > > At 11:58 07/05/2003 +0200, you wrote: > >Any chance you can stirr up that 'ballot' process? > >Some people are waiting for a solution in IETF MIB land. > > > >Thanks, > >Bert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Les Bell [mailto:Les_Bell@eur.3com.com] > > > Sent: woensdag 7 mei 2003 9:06 > > > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > > > Cc: Andrew Smith; 'Bridge-Mib (E-mail)'; mibs@ops.ietf.org; > > > tony@jeffree.co.uk; mick_seaman@ieee.org > > > Subject: RE: VLAn ID > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was discussed at the March meeting. The decision was to > > > conduct an email > > > 'ballot' to determine if anyone had any objections to using > > > 4095 as a wildcard > > > VLAN ID. I have not heard about the details of how, or when, > > > this will take > > > place. > > > > > > Les... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> on 06/05/2003 18:43:42 > > > > > > Sent by: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> > > > > > > > > > To: Les Bell/GB/3Com, Andrew Smith <ah_smith@acm.org> > > > cc: "'Wijnen, Bert , "'Bridge-Mib , mibs@ops.ietf.org > > > Subject: RE: VLAn ID > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Les, Did you get any feedback after that March 9th meeting? > > > If not, Can you poll Mick Seaman? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bert > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Les Bell [mailto:Les_Bell@eur.3com.com] > > > > Sent: vrijdag 28 februari 2003 17:27 > > > > To: Andrew Smith > > > > Cc: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; 'Bridge-Mib (E-mail)'; > mibs@ops.ietf.org > > > > Subject: RE: VLAn ID > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have asked for the opinion of the IEEE 802.1 Task Force > > > > Chair, Mick Seaman, on > > > > this proposal. He believes that the use of 4095 as a > > > > wildcard VLAN-ID would be > > > > okay, but he wants to discuss it formally at the IEEE 802 > > > > meeting in Dallas > > > > (week commencing March 9). I will be attending this meeting. > > > > > > > > Les... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew Smith" <ah_smith@acm.org> on 27/02/2003 17:53:56 > > > > > > > > Sent by: "Andrew Smith" <ah_smith@acm.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "'Wijnen, Bert \ > > > > cc: "'Bridge-Mib \, mibs@ops.ietf.org (Les Bell/GB/3Com) > > > > Subject: RE: VLAn ID > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bert, > > > > > > > > The whole point of defining these TCs in a separate document > > > > is to serve > > > > "possible future (yet-undefined) needs" - why else would we > > > bother to > > > > break them out in a separate document or module? > > > > > > > > The need to use VlanIdOrAny as an index in the future seems > > > likely to > > > > me. It is especially likely if you believe that we're > > > trying to set a > > > > precedent here for how to represent "some sort of > packet field or > > > > don't-care". Personally, I think it's a bit clunky to > > > > overload the value > > > > like this - a separate flag object is more elegant, > but, if we're > > > > comfortable with the overloading, I'd go with Randy and say > > > (as I did > > > > before - maybe you missed my message?) that the syntax here > > > should be > > > > unsigned, not signed (I understand the practical reasons for the > > > > non-negative-index restriction in SNMP but it is a > limitation on the > > > > SMIv2 language). I don't think there's a need to consult > > > with IEEE 802 > > > > on this - I think most of the people with relevant opinions > > > > on this are > > > > already on this thread - but that's the bridge-mib WG chair's > > > > call if he > > > > wants to ask himself for help. > > > > > > > > My opinions (I know you're looking for others though ...). > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-mibs@ops.ietf.org > > > [mailto:owner-mibs@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf > > > Of Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:36 AM > > > To: Randy Presuhn (E-mail) > > > Cc: Bridge-Mib (E-mail); mibs@ops.ietf.org > > > Subject: VLAn ID > > > > > > > > > Randy, you wrote: > > > >To: bridge-mib@ietf.org > > > >cc: mibs@ops.ietf.org (Les Bell/GB/3Com) > > > >Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] VLAN-ID > > > > > > > >Hi - > > > > > > > >I think it would be better if the "any" value in the > *OrAny TC were > > > >a non-negative value so that the type could be used to define an > > > >index. There may not be a need today, but thinking ahead to > > > >representing policy-like things wouldn't hurt. > > > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell, you seem to be the only one sofar who > > > has spoken up on the idea of not having a negative value > > > for the "any" for the VlanIdOrAny TC that I proposed. > > > > > > You do not claim an immediate need, but a possible future > > > (yet-undefined) need. > > > > > > S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > Tony > _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib
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