[Bridge-mib] RE: VLAn ID

"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> Tue, 06 May 2003 17:46 UTC

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From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
To: Les Bell <Les_Bell@eur.3com.com>, Andrew Smith <ah_smith@acm.org>
Cc: "'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'" <bwijnen@lucent.com>, "'Bridge-Mib (E-mail)'" <bridge-mib@ietf.org>, mibs@ops.ietf.org
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 19:43:42 +0200
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Les, Did you get any feedback after that March 9th meeting?
If not, Can you poll Mick Seaman?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Bell [mailto:Les_Bell@eur.3com.com]
> Sent: vrijdag 28 februari 2003 17:27
> To: Andrew Smith
> Cc: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; 'Bridge-Mib (E-mail)'; mibs@ops.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: VLAn ID
> I have asked for the opinion of the IEEE 802.1 Task Force 
> Chair, Mick Seaman, on
> this proposal.  He believes that the use of 4095 as a 
> wildcard VLAN-ID would be
> okay, but he wants to discuss it formally at the IEEE 802 
> meeting in Dallas
> (week commencing March 9).  I will be attending this meeting.
> Les...
> "Andrew Smith" <ah_smith@acm.org> on 27/02/2003 17:53:56
> Sent by:  "Andrew Smith" <ah_smith@acm.org>
> To:   "'Wijnen, Bert \
> cc:   "'Bridge-Mib \, mibs@ops.ietf.org (Les Bell/GB/3Com)
> Subject:  RE: VLAn ID
> Bert,
> The whole point of defining these TCs in a separate document 
> is to serve
> "possible future (yet-undefined) needs" - why else would we bother to
> break them out in a separate document or module?
> The need to use VlanIdOrAny as an index in the future seems likely to
> me. It is especially likely if you believe that we're trying to set a
> precedent here for how to represent "some sort of packet field or
> don't-care". Personally, I think it's a bit clunky to 
> overload the value
> like this - a separate flag object is more elegant, but, if we're
> comfortable with the overloading, I'd go with Randy and say (as I did
> before - maybe you missed my message?) that the syntax here should be
> unsigned, not signed (I understand the practical reasons for the
> non-negative-index restriction in SNMP but it is a limitation on the
> SMIv2 language). I don't think there's a need to consult with IEEE 802
> on this - I think most of the people with relevant opinions 
> on this are
> already on this thread - but that's the bridge-mib WG chair's 
> call if he
> wants to ask himself for help.
> My opinions (I know you're looking for others though ...).
> Andrew
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-mibs@ops.ietf.org 
[mailto:owner-mibs@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf
Of Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:36 AM
To: Randy Presuhn (E-mail)
Cc: Bridge-Mib (E-mail); mibs@ops.ietf.org
Subject: VLAn ID

Randy, you wrote:
>To:   bridge-mib@ietf.org
>cc:   mibs@ops.ietf.org (Les Bell/GB/3Com)
>Subject:  Re: [Bridge-mib] VLAN-ID
>Hi -
>I think it would be better if the "any" value in the *OrAny TC were
>a non-negative value so that the type could be used to define an
>index.  There may not be a need today, but thinking ahead to
>representing policy-like things wouldn't hurt.

As far as I can tell, you seem to be the only one sofar who
has spoken up on the idea of not having a negative value
for the "any" for the VlanIdOrAny TC that I proposed.

You do not claim an immediate need, but a possible future
(yet-undefined) need.


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