[Cacao] Recap of Side Meeting

Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 06 November 2018 11:36 UTC

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All,

I want to thank everyone that attended our unofficial hour-long side meeting this evening. We had 16 people in the room and had a great discussion.

For those of you that could not attend, I gave a quick introduction/overview to CACAO and the problem that we are trying to solve. I also talked through some of the requirements that we have already identified. There were lots of great questions about this work and I feel things went really well.

The consensus in the room was that this is a problem that we should work on and that those in the room would be supportive of moving this work forward. Some concerns were expressed about ensuring that this is done securely and ensuring that we work with other groups as appropriate. 

Here is my back of the napkin proposal for next steps:

	1) Hold another Introduction to CACAO WebEx session (a request from the room)
	2) Start working on a mission statement / charter for this group
	3) Identify the buckets of work we can address and the order in which we can address them (crawl - walk - run)
	4) Work towards an official BOF for Prague (consensus from the room)

If you have concerns with any of this, or would like to talk with me more about it, please let me know. For those here in Bangkok we can setup a time to talk face-2-face.

Thanks again for all of the great questions and discussion that we had tonight.  

Bret
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