Re: [caldav] Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) (fwd)

"Tim Hare" <TimHare@comcast.net> Fri, 20 June 2014 20:27 UTC

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From: Tim Hare <TimHare@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [caldav] Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) (fwd)
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I think this has long been needed.  One thought re: scaling - could the
existing NTP/SNTP hierarchy be used to also hold and distribute the timezone
data? That way the time servers also could be the timezone servers;  the
data changes fairly infrequently but when it does it is with short notice,
it would be nice to have it spread out through a tree structure fairly
quickly.  I don't think the update would cause significant load to the
servers, and the hierarchical nature of NTP/SNTP would, it seems to me, make
sure queries are handled as locally as possible.

Tim Hare
Interested Bystander, Non-Inc.

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From: caldav [mailto:caldav-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Cyrus Daboo
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 12:08 PM
To: IETF-Calsify; IETF-CalDAV
Cc: TC-Timezone; CalConnect
Subject: [caldav] Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service
(tzdist) (fwd)

Hi,
This is likely of interest to all iCalendar/CalDAV etc folks. Discussion of
the proposed working group charter should initially take place on the
apps-discuss list.

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Date: June 20, 2014 at 11:06:51 AM -0400
From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
To: Apps Discuss <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
cc: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>
Subject: Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist)

Cyrus Daboo has proposed a new working group in the Applications Area, and
I'm initiating charter discussion on it:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-tzdist/

We'll have the charter discussion here on apps-discuss.  Assuming a working
group comes out of this, we'll create a new mailing list for the actual
work, once the charter is done.

Comments on this charter are welcome.  I expect to put it on the 10 July
IESG telechat for initial approval, after which it will go out for IETF and
external review.  So, comments here by 4 July, please.

Barry, Applications AD

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