Re: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF
Pekka Nikander <pekka.nikander@nomadiclab.com> Wed, 12 October 2005 13:53 UTC
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From: Pekka Nikander <pekka.nikander@nomadiclab.com>
Subject: Re: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:53:05 +0200
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Eliot, I think it is important to discuss this problem space, as there are a number of completely different approaches already being developed, including STUN/ICE/whatever and IPsec with NAT-T. Whether the proposed approach is a good addition to the set is something that could clearly be discussed in a BOF. --Pekka NIkander On Oct 12, 2005, at 10:12, Eliot Lear wrote: > After all of the mail last month, Bert is considering allowing a > BoF on the topic of Call Home. I initially posted a note to the > call-home mailing list announcing the possibility of a BoF. > Response to that note was - well - underwhelming. If you are > interested in seeing one, could you please reply to this email, > CCing the call-home mailing list. Here is a draft agenda. It is > subject to your input. > > If we do not see much input, I'm going to drop the request to Bert. > > Eliot > > Title: callhome > Period of time: 1 hour > Area: ops-nm > Expected # attendees: 40-60 (small room) > Don't conflict with: ISMS, ops-area, netconf (if there is one) > > > Short Description: Discussion of Architectural Issues Concerning > protocols that could benefit from reversing > of roles > > Long Description: > > Certain protocols, and in particular management protocols where > devices on either end of connection take client server roles may > be able to take advantage of "Call Home" functionality, when > traditional roles are reversed, and a server connect to a client. > Examples of existing protocols that make use of call home include > SMTP [ETRN] and COPS. At this BoF we will look at extending such > functionality into other protocols, as well as any architectural > issues this raises. > > This work stems from efforts in ISMS to extend SNMP to run over SSH, > as well as work as work that has gone on in NETCONF. > > We will begin with a discussion of draft-lear-callhome-description-0 > [1,2].txt, which contains a description of call home, what problems > it can solve, and what some of the architectural issues are. > During the BoF we may identify additional such issues as well as > protocols other than management protocols that could benefit from > this work. An additional potential question should be whether a > generic standard or process should be used to implement call home, > such as rules for SSH. > > There are three possible outcomes: a working group to add "call home" > functionality to existing protocols such as SNMP/SSH and NETCONF/SSH, > use of existing working groups for this purpose, or nothing. > > Chair: Eliot Lear (or tbd) > Agenda: > > Agenda bashing - 1 minute > Presentation of draft-lear-callhome-description-00.txt 19 minutes > Application to SNMP and open areas - 10 minutes > Discussion including architectural issues - 20 minutes > Moving Forward Options - 10 minutes > > _______________________________________________ > Call-home mailing list > Call-home@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/call-home > > _______________________________________________ Call-home mailing list Call-home@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/call-home
- [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF Eliot Lear
- RE: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF Pekka Nikander
- RE: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF Sumanth Channabasappa
- Re: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF Wyllys Ingersoll
- Re: [Call-home] last call for a Call Home BoF Josh Littlefield
- [Call-home] Re: last call for a Call Home BoF Andy Bierman
- RE: [Call-home] Re: last call for a Call Home BoF Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [Call-home] Re: last call for a Call Home BoF Andy Bierman