Re: [calsify] New Timestamp Draft

Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> Sun, 24 January 2021 03:16 UTC

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:15:35 +1100
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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The document is plenty complete enough for a call for adoption!  I shall do so now.

You are exactly correct that it's possible to do further iteration after adoption.

Thanks,

Bron.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 23:19, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> Hi Bron, CalExt Friends!
> 
> I made a new revision of the draft, which shifts the focus to defining
> the syntax/format and defers the standardization of the actual key-value
> pairs to sibling organizations like IANA and Unicode Consortium.
> 
> I'd love to hear your opinions on this version, which you can find at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/,
> which can be filed as issues on the GitHub repository or emailed to me
> directly. In the meantime, I will address the remaining concerns/polish
> issues like fixing the references section.
> 
> How "complete" does the document need to be in order to initiate the
> call for adoption? If the current version works, can we start it as soon
> as possible? Of course, if my understanding of "adoption" is correct,
> I'd be happy to iterate on the document further after the adoption by
> the WG.
> 
> Best,
> Ujjwal
> 
> On 14/01/2021 8.34 am, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > Sounds great.  Let me know :)
> > 
> > When we do the call for adoption I'll also advertise the fact over to
> > the wider IETF - probably dispatch and tzdata lists at least.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bron.
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 13:48, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> >> Thanks Bron!
> >>
> >> I'll make a few more changes, release a 01 version, ask for more
> >> feedback and then let you know, hopefully by the end of this week.
> >>
> >> Ujjwal
> >>
> >> On 14/01/2021 7.03 am, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> >> > I can do a call for adoption straight away if you like - the next
> >> > meeting isn't for a couple of months.
> >> > 
> >> > Bron.
> >> > 
> >> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 05:24, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> >> >> One question: given things move forward smoothly, how do I proceed?
> >> >> Should I apply for this document to be adopted by the calext WG? I
> >> >> suppose the fastest way to proceed is to present it at the next IETF
> >> >> meeting?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Ujjwal
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12/01/2021 4.03 am, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Calsify folks!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I am sorry for the long delay, I got a little sidetracked working on
> >> >> > other things, but I'm happy to inform you all that I have
> >> something that
> >> >> > resembles a first draft for the updated timestamps RFC.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Here's where you can find it:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Datatracker:
> >> >>
> >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/
> >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/>
> >> >>
> >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/
> >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/>>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> GitHub: https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended
> >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended>
> >> >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended
> >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended>>
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I would request you all to take a look at it when you can and let me
> >> >> > know what you think. You can file a GitHub issue or email me
> >> directly.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > There's a few open discussions regarding the exact format and how the
> >> >> > interaction with bodies like the Unicode consortium work, so
> >> please feel
> >> >> > free to send me your thoughts regarding that as well.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Also, some references/bibliography is not perfectly functional yet
> >> >> > because I am still relatively new to authoring RFCs using
> >> Metanorma but
> >> >> > I'm actively looking into it.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Thanks and looking forward to hear from you,
> >> >> > Ujjwal
> >> >> > 
> >> >>
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Ujjwal "Ryzokuken" Sharma (he/him)
> >> >>
> >> >> Compilers Hacker, Node.js Core Collaborator and Speaker
> >> >>
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