Re: [calsify] New Timestamp Draft
Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> Sun, 24 January 2021 03:16 UTC
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:15:35 +1100
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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Subject: Re: [calsify] New Timestamp Draft
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The document is plenty complete enough for a call for adoption! I shall do so now. You are exactly correct that it's possible to do further iteration after adoption. Thanks, Bron. On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 23:19, Ujjwal Sharma wrote: > Hi Bron, CalExt Friends! > > I made a new revision of the draft, which shifts the focus to defining > the syntax/format and defers the standardization of the actual key-value > pairs to sibling organizations like IANA and Unicode Consortium. > > I'd love to hear your opinions on this version, which you can find at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/, > which can be filed as issues on the GitHub repository or emailed to me > directly. In the meantime, I will address the remaining concerns/polish > issues like fixing the references section. > > How "complete" does the document need to be in order to initiate the > call for adoption? If the current version works, can we start it as soon > as possible? Of course, if my understanding of "adoption" is correct, > I'd be happy to iterate on the document further after the adoption by > the WG. > > Best, > Ujjwal > > On 14/01/2021 8.34 am, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > Sounds great. Let me know :) > > > > When we do the call for adoption I'll also advertise the fact over to > > the wider IETF - probably dispatch and tzdata lists at least. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bron. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 13:48, Ujjwal Sharma wrote: > >> Thanks Bron! > >> > >> I'll make a few more changes, release a 01 version, ask for more > >> feedback and then let you know, hopefully by the end of this week. > >> > >> Ujjwal > >> > >> On 14/01/2021 7.03 am, Bron Gondwana wrote: > >> > I can do a call for adoption straight away if you like - the next > >> > meeting isn't for a couple of months. > >> > > >> > Bron. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 05:24, Ujjwal Sharma wrote: > >> >> One question: given things move forward smoothly, how do I proceed? > >> >> Should I apply for this document to be adopted by the calext WG? I > >> >> suppose the fastest way to proceed is to present it at the next IETF > >> >> meeting? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Ujjwal > >> >> > >> >> On 12/01/2021 4.03 am, Ujjwal Sharma wrote: > >> >> > Hi Calsify folks! > >> >> > > >> >> > I am sorry for the long delay, I got a little sidetracked working on > >> >> > other things, but I'm happy to inform you all that I have > >> something that > >> >> > resembles a first draft for the updated timestamps RFC. > >> >> > > >> >> > Here's where you can find it: > >> >> > > >> >> > Datatracker: > >> >> > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/ > >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/> > >> >> > >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/ > >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/>> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> GitHub: https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended > >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended> > >> >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended > >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended>> > >> >> > > >> >> > I would request you all to take a look at it when you can and let me > >> >> > know what you think. You can file a GitHub issue or email me > >> directly. > >> >> > > >> >> > There's a few open discussions regarding the exact format and how the > >> >> > interaction with bodies like the Unicode consortium work, so > >> please feel > >> >> > free to send me your thoughts regarding that as well. > >> >> > > >> >> > Also, some references/bibliography is not perfectly functional yet > >> >> > because I am still relatively new to authoring RFCs using > >> Metanorma but > >> >> > I'm actively looking into it. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks and looking forward to hear from you, > >> >> > Ujjwal > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Ujjwal "Ryzokuken" Sharma (he/him) > >> >> > >> >> Compilers Hacker, Node.js Core Collaborator and Speaker > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> calsify mailing list > >> >> calsify@ietf.org <mailto:calsify@ietf.org> <mailto:calsify@ietf.org > >> <mailto:calsify@ietf.org>> > >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify> > >> >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd > >> > brong@fastmailteam.com <mailto:brong@fastmailteam.com> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > calsify mailing list > >> > calsify@ietf.org <mailto:calsify@ietf.org> > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify> > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Ujjwal "Ryzokuken" Sharma (he/him) > >> > >> Compilers Hacker, Node.js Core Collaborator and Speaker > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> calsify mailing list > >> calsify@ietf.org <mailto:calsify@ietf.org> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify> > >> > > > > -- > > Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd > > brong@fastmailteam.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > calsify mailing list > > calsify@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > > > > -- > Ujjwal "Ryzokuken" Sharma (he/him) > > Compilers Hacker, Node.js Core Collaborator and Speaker > > _______________________________________________ > calsify mailing list > calsify@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com
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