Re: [calsify] Request for adoption: draft-gondwana-caldav-scheduling-controls

Ken Murchison <murch@fastmail.com> Tue, 26 March 2019 16:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [calsify] Request for adoption: draft-gondwana-caldav-scheduling-controls
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On 3/26/19 12:39 PM, Michael Douglass wrote:
>
> I think it probably would bear some investigation.
>
> I suspect the bulk import would work better for the special cases you 
> mentioned.
>
> My recollection is that you get some sort of per record status and 
> that would be helpful.
>

Yes, bulk import as defined in the Daboo draft uses a 207 (Multi-status) 
response.



> Maybe we should talk about this - I see some other less importy uses - 
> for example updating a whole bunch of related resources. That gets 
> very messy if it has to be done as a bunch of requests and one of them 
> fails.
>
> On 3/26/19 07:16, Ken Murchison wrote:
>>
>> To clarify, I implemented bulk import only.  I haven't implemented 
>> bulk update.
>>
>>
>> On 3/26/19 5:54 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>>> Thanks Mike - sorry about the delay in replying.
>>>
>>> Do you think we should progress bulk-change as a separate document, 
>>> or merge it into scheduling controls?
>>>
>>> Ken implemented it in the Cyrus IMAPd server, but we aren't using it 
>>> ourselves.  I guess you could "bulk update" a single item to avoid 
>>> scheduling as an alternative method.
>>>
>>> Bron.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019, at 07:38, Michael Douglass wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cyrus wrote a spec for bulk import/updates
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apple/ccs-calendarserver/blob/master/doc/Extensions/calendarserver-bulk-change.xml
>>>>
>>>> I have the impression it's used but not certain.
>>>>
>>>> The spec says nothing about scheduling.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/19 07:07, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>>>>> It's a bit cheeky asking this as a recent chair myself, but I had 
>>>>> started work on this document as a purely FastMail suggestion, and 
>>>>> during discussion at CalConnect last month in Zurich it came up 
>>>>> that Google had done much the same thing themselves to handle bulk 
>>>>> import, so I ran the idea past Lucia and put this draft together.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's still some work to do, and I'm happy to hand over 
>>>>> authorship to somebody else if anyone wants it, or to continue 
>>>>> working on it myself.  I've renamed things to be a bit more 
>>>>> consistent than our implementation at FastMail, but of course we'd 
>>>>> update to match the standard once the spec is done.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-caldav-scheduling-controls/
>>>>>
>>>>> (still plenty of work to do on it, but the bones are there)
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe this is within the scope of this group's existing 
>>>>> charter and would like to see it adopted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bron.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>   Bron Gondwana, CEO, FastMail Pty Ltd
>>>>> brong@fastmailteam.com <mailto:brong@fastmailteam.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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