Re: [calsify] New Timestamp Draft

Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> Thu, 14 January 2021 03:05 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:04:51 +1100
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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Sounds great.  Let me know :)

When we do the call for adoption I'll also advertise the fact over to the wider IETF - probably dispatch and tzdata lists at least.

Cheers,

Bron.


On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 13:48, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> Thanks Bron!
> 
> I'll make a few more changes, release a 01 version, ask for more
> feedback and then let you know, hopefully by the end of this week.
> 
> Ujjwal
> 
> On 14/01/2021 7.03 am, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > I can do a call for adoption straight away if you like - the next
> > meeting isn't for a couple of months.
> > 
> > Bron.
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 05:24, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> >> One question: given things move forward smoothly, how do I proceed?
> >> Should I apply for this document to be adopted by the calext WG? I
> >> suppose the fastest way to proceed is to present it at the next IETF
> >> meeting?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ujjwal
> >>
> >> On 12/01/2021 4.03 am, Ujjwal Sharma wrote:
> >> > Hi Calsify folks!
> >> > 
> >> > I am sorry for the long delay, I got a little sidetracked working on
> >> > other things, but I'm happy to inform you all that I have something that
> >> > resembles a first draft for the updated timestamps RFC.
> >> > 
> >> > Here's where you can find it:
> >> > 
> >> > Datatracker:
> >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/
> >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended/>
> >> >
> >> GitHub: https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended
> >> <https://github.com/ryzokuken/draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended>
> >> > 
> >> > I would request you all to take a look at it when you can and let me
> >> > know what you think. You can file a GitHub issue or email me directly.
> >> > 
> >> > There's a few open discussions regarding the exact format and how the
> >> > interaction with bodies like the Unicode consortium work, so please feel
> >> > free to send me your thoughts regarding that as well.
> >> > 
> >> > Also, some references/bibliography is not perfectly functional yet
> >> > because I am still relatively new to authoring RFCs using Metanorma but
> >> > I'm actively looking into it.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks and looking forward to hear from you,
> >> > Ujjwal
> >> > 
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Ujjwal "Ryzokuken" Sharma (he/him)
> >>
> >> Compilers Hacker, Node.js Core Collaborator and Speaker
> >>
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