Re: [Captive-portals] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-capport-api-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Tue, 09 June 2020 01:17 UTC

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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 11:17:29 +1000
From: "Martin Thomson" <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: "Martin Duke" <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>, "Tommy Pauly" <tpauly@apple.com>
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On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, at 12:53, Martin Duke wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 4:52 PM Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  I believe in this case the architecture document needs to change, or clarify that this MUST refers to that the mechanism needs to be *able* to communicate such a URI, not that such a URI must always be communicated.
> > 
> >  The group has discussed this several times, and I believe the API doc reflects the consensus: while we aren’t tackling solutions for captive portals that don’t involve User Portal pages (future solutions using a more OS-driven experience and perhaps built in payment, etc), we want to allow the API JSON to be usable in those new models. Not all captive networks will necessarily use this kind of URI in the future, and there’s no need to make the registry lock that in as mandatory. 
> 
> Very well, I’d like to hear from one of the chairs, but if confirmed 
> I’m happy to move my DISCUSS to -architecture.

I can confirm that Tommy's recollection is correct.  There are cases where captivity is not negotiable - well at least not using a web browser.  I think that we just didn't capture this very well in the architecture doc.