[Ietf-carddav] RE: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV

Cameron Stillion <camerost@exchange.microsoft.com> Wed, 19 October 2005 17:05 UTC

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I actually think there is value in having them separate - just as iCal
should never have contained tasks... They are fundamentally different
data types.  BUT, they need to have a connection.  The protocol and
schema should connect - clearly and purposefully.

cam

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From: Carsten Guenther [mailto:Carsten.Guenther@scalix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday.19.October.2005 09.41
To: Cameron Stillion
Cc: Mark Paterson; Cyrus Daboo; CalDAV DevList; CardDAV DevList
Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV

I agree, and it begs the question if those two (CalDAV and CardDAV)
should be rolled into one standard.

On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Cameron Stillion wrote:

>
> I would like to just add that strategically, vCard and iCal are 
> intimately related.  Endeavors in this area are necessarily going to 
> reference each other.  As soon as you begin implementing any PIM 
> features of relative value, it becomes very clear.  Distributing 
> Calendars needs a way to associate an owner with a calendar, 
> especially the kind that represent your actual schedule, as opposed to

> the calendar for the little league team you coach on the weekends.  
> Likewise, as soon as you begin distributing your contact information, 
> the next piece you want to share is your schedule.  Both standards 
> need to have a way to associate back and forth.  A standard or 
> protocol that mentions one but not the other, is IMHO - incomplete, 
> and unfinished.
>
> Cameron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-caldav-bounces@osafoundation.org
> [mailto:ietf-caldav-bounces@osafoundation.org] On Behalf Of Mark 
> Paterson
> Sent: Wednesday.19.October.2005 08.59
> To: Cyrus Daboo
> Cc: CalDAV DevList; CardDAV DevList
> Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV
>
> Nice idea but you may want to consider a cardsify initiative to go 
> along with it. vCard leaves a lot to be desired.:-)
>
> Cyrus Daboo wrote:
>
>
>> Hi folks,
>> This is a little of topic, but I think it is relevant for most folks.
>> I have just sent in a draft for a new protocol called CardDAV:
>>
>> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-daboo-carddav-00.txt>
>>
>> CardDAV does for vCards what CalDAV does for iCalendar. i.e. it 
>> provides a set of WebDAV extensions and a data model for access to 
>> vCard objects stored on a server. CardDAV is very similar to CalDAV 
>> because of the similarities between iCalendar and vCard formats.
>>
>> There is a separate discussion list setup for CardDAV, so please 
>> respond to any comments on that list rather than the CalDAV list.
>> List
>>
>
>
>> details are below:
>>
>> <http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-carddav>
>>
>>
>
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