Re: [Ietf-carddav] Comments on draft-daboo-carddav-02

Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name> Mon, 16 July 2007 21:16 UTC

Return-Path: <cyrus@daboo.name>
X-Original-To: ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org
Delivered-To: ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org
Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C378036D for <ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org>; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:16:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A627E14220F for <ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org>; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org
X-Spam-Score: -2.244
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.244 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.157, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001]
Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HrkArDAypnZ9 for <ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org>; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail2536.carrierzone.com (mail2536.carrierzone.com [64.29.147.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD014220D for <ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org>; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Authenticated-User: master.tencoassemblies.com
Received: from TENCOSERVER.TencoAssembliesInc.local (static-68-162-87-75.phil.east.verizon.net [68.162.87.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2536.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l6GLFD4r024064; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:15:17 GMT
Received: from TENCOSERVER.TencoAssembliesInc.local ([10.0.0.2]) by TENCOSERVER.TencoAssembliesInc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:15:13 -0400
Received: by TENCOSERVER.TencoAssembliesInc.local (Microsoft Connector for POP3 Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download) id MSG07162007-171511-11908.MMD@TencoAssembliesInc.local; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:15:11 -0400
X-From_: w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Mon Jul 16 21:05:57 2007
X-Envelope-From: w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org
Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by mail2503.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l6GL5tIW018834 for <JTentilucci@tencoassemblies.com>; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:05:56 GMT
Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1IAXkg-0004MA-Fn for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:05:06 +0000
Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IAXkc-000419-Jk for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:05:02 +0000
Received: from piper.mulberrymail.com ([151.201.22.177] helo=mulberrymail.com) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <cyrus@daboo.name>) id 1IAXka-0000ih-Ef for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:05:02 +0000
Received: from caldav.corp.apple.com ([17.101.32.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by mulberrymail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6GL4dAq028754 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:04:41 -0400
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:04:34 -0400
From: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, =?UTF-8?Q?Wilfredo_S=C3=A1nchez_Vega?= <wsanchez@wsanchez.net>
Message-ID: <7660A6B4F6DF3B0DEF30B171@caldav.corp.apple.com>
In-Reply-To: <469BC5C2.3050207@gmx.de>
References: <4699F52B.10101@gmx.de> <DA70918551A4706E579F3829@caldav.corp.apple.com> <469B8745.7030805@gmx.de> <79F2A71D-2D97-4EE2-8900-B095A16DB935@greenbytes.de> <469B960C.7080905@gmx.de> <D97FBA56-19CB-439F-A78B-A9F41898AA04@wsanchez.net> <469BC5C2.3050207@gmx.de>
X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Received-SPF: none
X-SPF-Guess: pass
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6
X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1IAXka-0000ih-Ef 36962a5062231d88f7289ec98ded2a64
X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
Subject: Re: [Ietf-carddav] Comments on draft-daboo-carddav-02
X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/7660A6B4F6DF3B0DEF30B171@caldav.corp.apple.com
Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
X-Mailing-List: <w3c-dist-auth@w3.org> archive/latest/12741
X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
Precedence: list
Resent-Message-Id: <E1IAXkg-0004MA-Fn@frink.w3.org>
Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:05:06 +0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2007 21:15:13.0817 (UTC) FILETIME=[6670F090:01C7C7EE]
Cc: Stefan Eissing <stefan.eissing@greenbytes.de>, WebDAV <w3c-dist-auth@w3.org>, ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org
X-BeenThere: ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
List-Id: ietf-carddav.osafoundation.org
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.osafoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ietf-carddav>, <mailto:ietf-carddav-request@osafoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/ietf-carddav>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-carddav-request@osafoundation.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.osafoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ietf-carddav>, <mailto:ietf-carddav-request@osafoundation.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:16:19 -0000

Hi Julian,

--On July 16, 2007 9:23:46 PM +0200 Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>; 
wrote:

>>   This would have been useful in CalDAV; rather than having the client
>> hope that the name it chooses isn't already in use.
>>
>>     -wsv
>
> PUT ...
> If-None-Match: "*"

Whilst that tells you if you have a conflict, you still end up having to 
take a guess at another resource name to use to actually save the new data. 
Hopefully, the second guess will work.

The one benefit I have heard to the POST/ADDMEMBER approach is if the 
server has limitations on resource names. Typically those are servers that 
proxy their data to/from another, more rigid, system.

-- 
Cyrus Daboo