Re: [Casm] [homenet] prefix assignment

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 29 March 2017 23:01 UTC

Return-Path: <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: casm@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: casm@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7FD129631; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:01:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id apNzLDl67z0U; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-it0-x243.google.com (mail-it0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D702712967E; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-it0-x243.google.com with SMTP id y18so11430703itc.2; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:organization:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z3NQr6PmrxvynVU1cLKKReWc5O/wpv8YszuQDLz7kmQ=; b=GQHvN0s6ezlw2quvyGoBOEt8xjEzC5MyZGItnXpMxJNr6e+W/dbzfR/ym7cfX6Dygp 8ynaPdeHMX4tB00ySamWAHHqt3KLjDdnxGmg56BA4kf6fb7Fqg55p9KQ8R4eg+m1tITR Hg2uFaX/7Lpiqb8HchrqlWRORE2hniqE3s27XyWTCaaKWeodkbM1kxYKB+/Jff1EZ3Cs Ed1vi9A7HRWA/6W7FV0XjunnpqAt7poqc8+YFO4Lfza9vQn10bpR3dQuLBnh3NHYcjt5 y5SdruibIPkM4T8FRCPmvjDwAJSq4IwgdhDDT59bZDKA3FnaCWCTRbc8nWAfLusOydtE p1fw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z3NQr6PmrxvynVU1cLKKReWc5O/wpv8YszuQDLz7kmQ=; b=KVErrBcmNZGqildmnv1e0PXqqhCj2gjbrrfR8+WB7Yk0MQSFKQtHYPSAWmaGpnCpoe FA1toHXWlx3F87AFqGPEjOTF5SoyIrIS8kfqphNkJMjyVxf3KzU76HdAXzw+92KnSENF WcavZv9jT51DOEszbbiG/+X5LlyxiszowGlDvSpS1GX8o2idr/xZ7iQ7cxCzGkPzW52P QVeiCLnvFstC+EmoyQ+QMB97LqLSx2quRv185piJHrMIty7RbE5BQkT9BsdXmtPPD1Ul kEg96ZUR3hcies22xOuVuYoMh01D5BNzw2CvIem1bUY7hWng/5IPKjvkDfD+qqRQIZmx WJsA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H2t/tcnlanqGhU4a6iq8Sn/EWiCzjF2j2h4DL8R8zKJX5mrFpPcv5vjmMlsuvHCFQ==
X-Received: by 10.36.87.136 with SMTP id u130mr1080438ita.100.1490828481039; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ?IPv6:2001:67c:370:128:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781? (t2001067c0370012828ccdc4c97036781.v6.meeting.ietf.org. [2001:67c:370:128:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p6sm424258iof.12.2017.03.29.16.01.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
To: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
References: <21984.1490644275@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <CANMVOuzYpcBdG2ZOhEXRnQU0Q=_i0i-09SPKzruJnznVoWW=OA@mail.gmail.com> <9240.1490649148@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <672bec4c-0e93-362c-21bf-99938cd0a066@gmail.com> <27800.1490654163@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <27680a33-708d-84b7-f378-3a47ee71840a@gmail.com> <2491.1490716597@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <5a41375c-2a4c-d5ca-e703-06d8e76f8728@gmail.com> <28218.1490799848@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <a34d8ff0-b2d1-b74c-2fd7-00e269b834ed@gmail.com> <14579.1490818588@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <53a40584-bc26-e7ec-e4c9-e76c86dcec03@gmail.com> <87r31fhk0d.wl-jch@irif.fr>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Mark Townsley <townsley@cisco.com>, homenet@ietf.org, casm@ietf.org, anima@ietf.org
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <a5479581-bbbe-9c48-7b87-28eeab334910@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:01:26 +1300
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <87r31fhk0d.wl-jch@irif.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/casm/12IgE6nDP9s867QvHkUElKuy44Y>
Subject: Re: [Casm] [homenet] prefix assignment
X-BeenThere: casm@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: Coordinated Address Space Management <casm.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/casm>, <mailto:casm-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/casm/>
List-Post: <mailto:casm@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:casm-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/casm>, <mailto:casm-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 23:01:33 -0000

On 30/03/2017 10:04, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
>> There's already a thing called an HNCP agent. Why couldn't
>> it be enhanced to negotiate with an upstream ASA for resources?
> 
> Could you please clarify what you mean by "negotiate"?  Current HNCP
> implementations are provided with a bunch of External Prefixes, which they
> then carve into /64, one per prefix.  Are you envisioning a scenario where
> the HNCP implementation actually performs active negotiation on its
> external interfaces?

Yes. But if it's a useless use case, that's fine. I was motivated to
point out that there *really* is no conflict between the homenet work
and Anima, and that they could be complementary if we want.

   Brian