[Casm] Which interfaces does CASM plan on standardizing?

Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 14 February 2017 17:30 UTC

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Subject: [Casm] Which interfaces does CASM plan on standardizing?
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Dear all,

Joel, Warren, and I have been discussing CASM.

Reading the two drafts, and we're wondering...

        draft-kumar-casm-problem-and-use-cases-00: This document describes evolution of IPAM into a
        standardized_interfaces _for centralized management of IP addresses.

        draft-kumar-casm-requirements-and-framework-00: There is a pressing need to define a new address management system
        which can meet these diverse set of requirements.  Such a system must
        be built with well defined_interfaces _so users can easily migrate
        from one vendor to another without rewriting their network management
        systems.

We see static address, public IP address pool, multicast IP address 
pool, pool initializing or resizing, etc.
We see DHCP server, DNS server, NAT service. And I guess there are 
controllers up there somewhere.
So which interfaces does CASM plan on standardizing?

         +----------------+ +------+ +----+ +-----+ +-----------------------+
         |Interface for   | |SDN/  | |OSS/| |ADMIN| |Interface for logs,    |
         |managing address| |Legacy| |BSS | |     | |DHCP, DNS, NAT, Address|
         |space and pools | |      | |    | |     | |allocation records     |
         +--------+-------+ +--+---+ +-+--+ +--+--+ +----------+------------+
                  |            |       |       |               ^
                  |            |       |       |               |
                  |            |       |       |               |
                  |            |       |       |               |
                  v            v       v       v               |
         +---+------------+-------+-------+---------------+------+
         |    Address Space Management (IPAM) System             |
         |      +-----------+ +----------+ +--------+            |
         |      | Pool      | |Address   | |Database|            |
         |      | Management| |Management| |        |            |
         |      +-----------+ +----------+ +--------+            |
         |                                                       |
         +-------------------------+-----------------------------+
                     |
         +-----------v------------+
         |Address Helper Plug|ins |
         +----+--+------+-----+---+
           |  |         |     |--------------------+
           |  +----+    |                          |
           |       |     ------------+             |
           v       +----|            |             |
         +--------+    +-----+  +----------+   +--------+
         | DNS    |    |NAT  |  |  Address |   | DHCP   |
         | Servers|    |     |  |  Mapping |   | Servers|
         |        |    |     |  |  Systems |   |        |
         +--------+    +-----+  +----------+   +--------+

All of them in this figure? A subset of those interfaces?
This group should be clear what it plans on working on.
And which IPAM vendors are involved in CASM, for a definition of IPAM 
related to this figure?

Note: similar comments as last time btw. See 
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg04613.html

Regards, Benoit