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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 08 February 2017 19:24 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Casm] I-D Action: draft-kumar-casm-requirements-and-framework-00.txt
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Joel,

"Coordinated" is perfect. It is essential, and it allows for both
centralized and distributed solutions.

    Brian
On 08/02/2017 18:02, joel jaeggli wrote:
> On 2/7/17 7:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> This document describes evolution of IPAM into a
>>> standardized interfaces for centralized management of IP addresses.
>>
>>> CASM:   Centralized Address Space Management
>>
>> Please delete 'centralized'. It isn't necessary (as mentioned in my
>> previous message) and it has the effect of limiting the range of
>> solutions that can be considered. I will consider the document as
>> if this word does not appear...
> 
> Coordinated if you like.
> 
>> And in fact I like the draft. I simply observe that this part of the model:
>>
>>         +---+------------+-------+-------+---------------+------+
>>         |    Address Space Management (IPAM) System             |
>>         |      +-----------+ +----------+ +--------+            |
>>         |      | Pool      | |Address   | |Database|            |
>>         |      | Management| |Management| |        |            |
>>         |      +-----------+ +----------+ +--------+            |
>>         |                                                       |
>>         +-------------------------+-----------------------------+
>>
>> *does not need to be centralized* except for two points: providing
>> the initial pool to the distributed system, and providing policy
>> intent to the distributed system.
>>
>> And there's a draft describing a distributed solution, for a subset
>> of the problem space:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-anima-prefix-management-02
>> I understand that it's too soon for this list to discuss solutions,
>> but I really do want the distributed approach to be on the table, since
>> this is one of the early use cases for the Anima WG.
>>
>> Regards
>>    Brian Carpenter
>>
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