Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Wed, 15 February 2017 13:29 UTC
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To: Xie Chongfeng <xiechf.bri@chinatelecom.cn>, Rakesh Kumar <rkkumar@juniper.net>, "'Liushucheng (Will)'" <liushucheng@huawei.com>, "marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca" <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
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From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt
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On 2/15/2017 2:27 AM, Xie Chongfeng wrote: > Hi, Benoit, > > Thank you for your notififying me. we are updating the 3 drafts and > will submit them soon. Does it mean that you consider those 3 drafts as potential outcomes for CASM? If yes, here is a question I asked to the mailing list: If the solution is this YANG module, based on draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-arch, should we jump directly to the solution? In other words, what is the BoF added value? Note: I thought that those two drafts received some (mild) support in OPSAWG already in IETF 94. Or maybe the 3 drafts are not complete. So what's missing? Trying to understand. Regards, Benoit > > > Best regards > Chongfeng > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > xiechf.bri@chinatelecom.cn > > *From:* Benoit Claise <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com> > *Date:* 2017-02-14 23:50 > *To:* Xie Chongfeng <mailto:xiechf.bri@chinatelecom.cn>; Rakesh > Kumar <mailto:rkkumar@juniper.net>; 'Liushucheng (Will)' > <mailto:liushucheng@huawei.com>; marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca > <mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> > *CC:* ian.farrer <mailto:ian.farrer@telekom.de>; normen.kowalewski > <mailto:normen.kowalewski@telekom.de>; CASM@ietf.org > <mailto:CASM@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for > draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt > Chongfeng, > > For my understanding... > So the plan is to stop working on these three drafts in OPSAWG? > > draft-xi-ps-centralized-address-management > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xi-ps-centralized-address-management> > expired > draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-arch > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-arch> > expired > draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-yang > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-yang> > expired > > Regards, Benoit >> Yes, I agree to combine all ideas into one set of drafts to push >> forward this work. >> >> BUT I didn't find any major difference between CASM and the old >> drafts, major use cases of centralized address management has >> been considered in the old PS draft >> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xie-ps-centralized-address-management/), >> including the DNS and NAT. CT put forward the use case of address >> management in metro network, Ian and norman of DT raised the >> case of address management for OpenStack, OSS,etc. >> >> So, I think it is necessary to clarify the relationship of these >> drafts. Thank you! >> >> Chongfeng >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> xiechf.bri@chinatelecom.cn >> >> *From:* Rakesh Kumar <mailto:rkkumar@juniper.net> >> *Date:* 2017-02-03 14:37 >> *To:* Liushucheng (Will) <mailto:liushucheng@huawei.com>; >> Marc Blanchet <mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>; Xie >> Chongfeng <mailto:xiechf.bri@chinatelecom.cn> >> *CC:* CASM@ietf.org <mailto:CASM@ietf.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for >> draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt >> Hi Will, >> The draft we wrote was based on the slide set we had >> presented earlier, that details a comprehensive approach to >> address management including with other address services such >> as DNS and NAT. We have also introduced the concept of >> interfaces based on user requirements. >> I think, it would be good idea to combine all ideas into one >> set of drafts. >> I think, CASM would also be useful for mining data for >> security related analytics. >> Thanks >> Rakesh >> On 2/2/17, 10:26 PM, "CASM on behalf of Liushucheng (Will)" >> <casm-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of liushucheng@huawei.com> >> wrote: >> Hi Rakesh, >> Many thanks for your efforts! >> No worries. Let's review and update in next version. And >> maybe another online meeting in next week. >> Btw, there are also some old work on this area as we >> discussed: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xie-ps-centralized-address-management/ >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-arch/ >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-i2apm-address-pool-management-yang/ >> Would you please let the audience know about the >> differences between new ones and old ones? >> Regards, >> Will (LIU Shucheng) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CASM [mailto:casm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> Marc Blanchet >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:02 PM >> To: Rakesh Kumar <rkkumar@juniper.net> >> Cc: CASM@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for >> draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt >> On 30 Jan 2017, at 1:43, Rakesh Kumar wrote: >> > It looks like we messed up on the name. My mistake. >> > >> > It should have been >> > “draft-kumar-casm-requirements-and-framework-00” >> instead of >> > “draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00”. >> > Is there a way to correct it? >> yeah. no big deal. we shall fix it for the new rev. >> Marc. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Rakesh >> > >> > On 1/29/17, 8:03 PM, "CASM on behalf of Rakesh Kumar" >> > <casm-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of >> rkkumar@juniper.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On 1/29/17, 7:53 PM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" >> > <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: >> > >> > >> > A new version of I-D, >> > draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt >> > has been successfully submitted by Marc >> Blanchet and posted to >> > the >> > IETF repository. >> > >> > Name: draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework >> > Revision: 00 >> > Title: Centralized Address Space Management(CASM) >> > Requirements and Framework >> > Document date: 2017-01-29 >> > Group: Individual Submission >> > Pages: 8 >> > URL: >> > >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00.txt >> > Status: >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework/ >> > Htmlized: >> > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumar-requirements-and-framework-00 >> > >> > >> > Abstract: >> > The organizations use IP Address Space >> Management (IPAM) >> > tools to >> > manage their IP address space, often with >> proprietary >> > database and >> > interfaces. This document describes >> evolution of IPAM into >> > a >> > standardized interfaces for centralized >> management of IP >> > addresses. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Please note that it may take a couple of >> minutes from the time >> > of submission >> > until the htmlized version and diff are >> available at >> > tools.ietf.org. >> > >> > The IETF Secretariat >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CASM mailing list >> > CASM@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/casm >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CASM mailing list >> > CASM@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/casm >> _______________________________________________ >> CASM mailing list >> CASM@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/casm >> _______________________________________________ >> CASM mailing list >> CASM@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/casm >> >
- [Casm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-kum… Rakesh Kumar
- Re: [Casm] FW: New Version Notification for draft… Rakesh Kumar
- Re: [Casm] FW: New Version Notification for draft… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Casm] FW: New Version Notification for draft… Rakesh Kumar
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Liushucheng (Will)
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Rakesh Kumar
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Liushucheng (Will)
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Rakesh Kumar
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Xie Chongfeng
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Xie Chongfeng
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Casm] New Version Notification for draft-kum… Benoit Claise