Re: [Cbor] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Tue, 08 September 2020 13:54 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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Subject: Re: [Cbor] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-ietf?= =?utf-8?q?-cbor-date-tag-06=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?=
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It sounds odd indeed but if there is a sensible explanation, we are all set.

Thank you Barry for the added piece of information

-éric

-----Original Message-----
From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Tuesday, 8 September 2020 at 15:41
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
Cc: Samita Chakrabarti <samitac.ietf@gmail.com>om>, "draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag@ietf.org>rg>, "cbor@ietf.org" <cbor@ietf.org>rg>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>rg>, "cbor-chairs@ietf.org" <cbor-chairs@ietf.org>rg>, Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: (with COMMENT)

    "Unsigned" and "negative" are the names two CBOR data types, and
    that's what the text refers to.  It does sound odd when you consider
    them as English terms, but they are meant as specific CBOR terms.

    Barry

    On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:53 AM Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
    <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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    > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
    > draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: No Objection
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    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > COMMENT:
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    >
    > Thank you for the work put into this document.
    >
    > Thank you Samita Chakrabarti for your IoT directorate review at
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06-iotdir-telechat-chakrabarti-2020-08-31/
    >
    > Please find below some nits.
    >
    > I hope that this helps to improve the document,
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > -éric
    >
    > PS: your example in the security considerations applied to my own birthday in
    > Japan then in Canada ;-) and this was my only international date line crossing.
    > Good planing of mine ;-)
    >
    > == NITS ==
    >
    > -- Section 1 and IANA section --
    > In the text "The tagged integer is an unsigned or negative value", should it
    > rather be "The tagged integer is a positive or negative value" ?
    >
    >
    >