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[Cbor] Re: Working Group Last Call on Serialization draft

Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> Wed, 02 September 2026 16:35 UTC

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> On Sep 2, 2026, at 6:19 AM, Vadim Goncharov <vadimnuclight@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Moreover, the "checking" definition is vague.

I hope this definition is not vague: [Appendix H]. The term definition makes it pertain only to checking serialization conformance (in addition to the well-formed checking every decoder must do).

If we make it a requirement like dCBOR does, then we will be sure it is not vague.

LL


[Appendix H]: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cbor-serialization-08.html#name-serialization-checking

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