[Cbor] Two specifications on timestamps nearing WGLC
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 04 October 2022 22:26 UTC
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Subject: [Cbor] Two specifications on timestamps nearing WGLC
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In the SEDATE and CBOR working groups, two loosely related specifications about timestamp formats for the Internet are being readied: * SEDATE WG: draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended defines the "Internet Extended Date/Time Formmt" (IXDTF), an extension to the widely used text-based RFC 3339 format that allows the addition of time-zone hints and other additional information (e.g., a preferred calendar format). This has been discussed with communities that already have some form of these format extensions in use and is intended as the specification that provides a common standard for these. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended-06.html * CBOR WG: draft-ietf-cbor-time-tag defines a few CBOR tags for timestamps, durations, and periods of time, going beyond the capabilities of the existing CBOR tags 0 (RFC3339) and 1 (POSIX time). This specification allows the transport of SEDATE extensions in a CBOR time tag. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cbor-time-tag-02.html One item that is of particular interest to the wider community this note addresses: We found an interoperability problem with the way that RFC 3339 handles timestamps that do not want to provide a hint about time zone offsets. As a remedy, the IXDTF spec therefore proposes to *update* RFC 3339. The need for this was a surprise for many of us, and a charter adjustment may be needed for the SEDATE WG for this update to go forward. Some of the details in the CBOR time tag may be of interest to the NTP and TICTOC WGs, which are therefore also CCed. Please reply to art@ietf.org for wider comments (e.g., "this is not the right way of doing this"), and to sedate@ietf.org or cbor@ietf.org for more detailed comments specific to one of the specifications. (The CBOR WG will have a chance to discuss any early input during its 2022-10-05 interim today.)
- [Cbor] Two specifications on timestamps nearing W… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Two specifications on timestamps… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Two specifications on timestamps… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Two specifications on timestamps… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Two specifications on timestamps… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Two specifications on timestamps… Michael Richardson
- [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [art] Two specificat… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] Two specif… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… John C Klensin
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… Edward Welbourne
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… John C Klensin
- Re: [Cbor] [art] [Sedate] Two specifications on t… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… John C Klensin
- [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [art] [Sedate] Two s… Ulrich Windl
- [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [Sedate] [art] Two s… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [Sedate] [art] T… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [Sedate] [art] Two s… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Cbor] [art] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [Sedate] T… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… John C Klensin
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [art] Two specifications on t… Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Access to club standards (Re: [Sedate] [ar… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Antw: Re: [art] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [Sed… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] Antw: Re: [art] Antw: [EXT] R… John C Klensin
- Re: [Cbor] [TICTOC] [Sedate] [art] Two specificat… Joseph Gwinn
- [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [TICTOC] [Sedate] [a… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [TICTOC] [Sedate… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Sedate] [art] T… Tony Finch
- Re: [Cbor] Antw: [EXT] Re: [Ntp] [TICTOC] [Sedate… Joseph Gwinn
- Re: [Cbor] [Ntp] [TICTOC] [Sedate] [art] Two spec… Danny Mayer
- Re: [Cbor] [art] [Ntp] [TICTOC] [Sedate] Two spec… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [art] [Ntp] [TICTOC] [Sedate] Two spec… Danny Mayer
- Re: [Cbor] [Ntp] [art] [TICTOC] [Sedate] Two spec… Doug Arnold
- Re: [Cbor] [Ntp] [art] [TICTOC] [Sedate] Two spec… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] [Sedate] [Ntp] [art] [TICTOC] Two spec… Edward Welbourne
- Re: [Cbor] [Ntp] [art] [TICTOC] [Sedate] Two spec… Barry Leiba