Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118
Wolf McNally <wolf@wolfmcnally.com> Sun, 05 November 2023 17:19 UTC
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From: Wolf McNally <wolf@wolfmcnally.com>
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Subject: Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118
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Anders, > On Nov 5, 2023, at 4:09 AM, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote: > > Since encoding 4.0 as 0xf94400 (CDE) or 0x04 (dCBOR) should be of no importance at the application-level (assuming the encoder/decoder adhere to the same conventions), the issue is (AFAICT) confined to the design of encoder/decoder APIs. As long as you continue to insist that this is all about *API* and refuse to acknowledge that this is about *determinism* throughout the entire stack, then you’re simply never going to understand our motivations. Orwell famously wrote, “Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two make four.” dCBOR is the freedom to say, “2 and 2.0 are the same concept: two, and so have the same encoding: 0x02.” ~ Wolf
- [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 lgl island-resort.com
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Anders Rundgren
- Re: [Cbor] (d)CBOR session at IETF 118 Wolf McNally
- [Cbor] Summary of the thread "(d)CBOR session at … Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Cbor] Summary of the thread "(d)CBOR session… lgl island-resort.com
- Re: [Cbor] Summary of the thread "(d)CBOR session… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] Summary of the thread "(d)CBOR session… lgl island-resort.com
- Re: [Cbor] Summary of the thread "(d)CBOR session… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] Summary of the thread "(d)CBOR session… Wolf McNally