[Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-12-11)
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Subject: [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-12-11)
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>> What would be the right size then? 250 million? 220 million? > > A typical draft allocating tags allocates a number that you can count on one hand. Each such tag has a human-readable description of its purpose in the registry so people know what to use them for. I don’t follow. The description given in some of our registrations is for a range and is exactly as readable as it would be for a single tag. > I'd suggest that a reasonable maximum number of tags for a draft to allocate for its purposes is on the order of ten. > > If that's not possible for this draft to achieve that, then I suspect that the draft is somehow abusing the tag mechanism to achieve something other than the normal purpose of tags. I explained this in a previous message; this is a space-saving device (which of course is doubly appropriate for a packing mechanism). This approach is just an idiom that has evolved in how tags are being used in CBOR. Compare RFC 9277 for another example [1]. I don’t think that this way of dealing with the unary (single-content) nature of tags is going away for any reason. Grüße, Carsten [1]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9277#name-cbor-tags-for-coap-content-
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Ira McDonald
- Re: [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- Re: [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: *NO* CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on … Barry Leiba
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- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Ira McDonald
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Wolf McNally
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Anders Rundgren
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- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Anders Rundgren
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- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Wolf McNally
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2024-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: Remi… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Joe Hildebrand
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Joe Hildebrand
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Michael Jones
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Michael Jones
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Joe Hildebrand
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Marco Tiloca
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocation … Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Christopher Allen
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Rohan Mahy
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR counter-pro… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Henk Birkholz
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Michael Richardson
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Kang Seonghoon
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Henk Birkholz
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Christopher Allen
- [Cbor] CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virt… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Wolf McNally
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Orie Steele
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Rohan Mahy
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Orie Steele
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Rohan Mahy
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Orie Steele
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Orie Steele
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Michael Richardson
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Martine Sophie Lenders
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Martine Sophie Lenders
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Orie Steele
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Alan DeKok
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: cbor-packed & dns-cbor are currently i… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: cbor-packed incompatibe / CBAR for dns… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed (Re: Early allocat… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Martine Sophie Lenders
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR explanation… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Abandon cbor-packed / CBAR alternative Martine Sophie Lenders
- [Cbor] Re: Early allocation for packed CBOR (Re: … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … lgl island-resort.com
- [Cbor] Re: CDE next steps (Re: Reminder: CBOR WG … Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Rohan Mahy
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Michael Richardson
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Michael Richardson
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Michael Richardson
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] cbor-packed, DNS-CBOR and CBAR/CBAPT (Was:… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: cbor-packed, DNS-CBOR and CBAR/CBAPT (… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: cbor-packed, DNS-CBOR and CBAR/CBAPT (… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Anders Rundgren
- [Cbor] Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2025-… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Barry Leiba
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Rohan Mahy
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Laurence Lundblade
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: packed: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 202… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: packed: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 202… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Carsten Bormann
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Vadim Goncharov
- [Cbor] Re: Reminder: CBOR WG Virtual Meeting on 2… Rohan Mahy