Re: [Cbor] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv-00.txt

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Subject: Re: [Cbor] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv-00.txt
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Hi Carsten,

this is *exactly* what fills a surprisingly big gap that might look 
trivial at first... but there is so. much. weirdness. out there. Please 
have a look at specimen A.):

> https://www.w3.org/TR/tabular-data-primer/

And then there have been even deeper and more dangerous semantic 
tranches being dug. Please have look at specimen B.) while having your 
OWL spectacles at hand:

> https://github.com/CommonCoreOntology/CommonCoreOntologies

(if OWL is not your native language) With the latter, I am referring to 
  InformationContentEntity and the InformationBearingEntity - semantic 
classes that, if you look into the details, potentially enable you to 
associate URI based semantics for header field values in a CSV.

*shudders*

The idea is good, but the execution is... an interesting read.

There are a lot of things that I.D-draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv could 
kickstart to fix.

Viele Grüße,

Henk



On 24.02.22 18:32, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Rob Wilton (unknowingly) made me do it.
> With big apologies from my side…
> 
> (But this brief spec is actually filling a real gap, so I would like to seriously pursue this.)
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv-00.txt
>> Date: 2022-02-24 at 18:29:38 CET
>> To: "Carsten Bormann" <cabo@tzi.org>
>> Message-Id: <164572377862.14104.224632674636119723@ietfa.amsl.com>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Carsten Bormann and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:		draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv
>> Revision:	00
>> Title:		Using CDDL for CSVs
>> Document date:	2022-02-24
>> Group:		Individual Submission
>> Pages:		6
>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv-00.txt
>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv/
>> Html:           https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv-00.html
>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bormann-cbor-cddl-csv
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    The Concise Data Definition Language (CDDL), standardized in RFC
>>    8610, is defined to provide data models for data shaped like JSON or
>>    CBOR.
>>
>>    Another representation format that is quote popular is the CSV file
>>    as defined by RFC 4180.
>>
>>    The present document shows how to use CDDL to provide a data model
>>    for CSV files.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF Secretariat
>>
>>
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