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Re: [Cbor] Supporting IPv6 Link-Local with scope (was Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT))

Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 07 October 2021 01:58 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 18:58:43 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Cbor] Supporting IPv6 Link-Local with scope (was Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT))
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>
> > Are there any OSes and Applications that really know how to deal with
> having
> > IPv4-LL addresses on multiple interfaces?  And didn't IPv4 die awhile
> back?
> >
> > If you really think we should do this for IPv4, I don't really object.
> > I just don't know what RFCs to cite.
>
> That's probably because there are none. As far as I know, there is no
> "Scoped architecture for IPv4" RFC. I don't know why there is YANG support.
>

To my knowledge the closest such thing would be RFC 3927.

I've never seen anything like an extension of sockaddr_in to add the
equivalent of sin6_scope_id, though it's not hard to imagine what would be
required to make some "sin_scope_id" thing work.

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