Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbor-cddl-control-03
Christian Amsüss <christian@amsuess.com> Wed, 16 June 2021 10:25 UTC
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:24:55 +0200
From: Christian Amsüss <christian@amsuess.com>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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Subject: Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbor-cddl-control-03
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Hello Carsten, hello CBOR group, > The biggest confusion was created in one case where part of the spec > said > > .feature “1.1” > > while another said > > .feature 1.1 > > (yes, the floating point number.) > The cddl tool treats these as different features (which they obviously > are), but generates exactly the same output for these. > > This led to a little goose hunt… The current draft text describes the features to "usually be a string", ands adds that arrays can make sense too. > So my provisional thinking is that this should be handled by better > tool support and maybe adding a little warning text in the draft. The text sounds good to me; a message produced by the tool ("Warning: CDDL feature {} is neither a string nor an array. This is allowed but unusual.") should catch floating features before they come into use. > [on .det ] > > Well, after some use it turns out that it is much more likely that one > needs both sides dedented, so maybe we switch to this [...] This really sounds to me like it should be a unary control. We don't have them, so either of the current proposals is viable for me -- but playing a bit with the unary control (more spitballing than actually suggesting): We *can* have empty groups on the RHS, right? So could we emulate unary operators by adopting a method-call-like pseudosyntax? cbor-tags-oid = ' oid = 1*arc roid = *arc arc = [nlsb] %x00-7f nlsb = %x81-ff *%x80-ff ' .det () would read like any other language's method call. Granted, the same parallel would be seen as terribly confusing, and cbor-tags-oid-decrypted = cbor-tags-oid .det () .rot13 () as I understand wouldn't even make the dedented text available to the obfuscating rot13 control. BR Christian -- To use raw power is to make yourself infinitely vulnerable to greater powers. -- Bene Gesserit axiom
- [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbor-cd… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbo… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbo… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbo… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbo… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on cbo… Carsten Bormann