Re: [CCAMP] POLL CLOSED - WG adoption poll on draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03

Aihua Guo <aihuaguo.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 02 February 2022 20:57 UTC

Return-Path: <aihuaguo.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A133A2036 for <ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 12:57:58 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.097
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t8jQwKBISc7b for <ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 12:57:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-oo1-xc35.google.com (mail-oo1-xc35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8F2D3A202E for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 12:57:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-oo1-xc35.google.com with SMTP id c7-20020a4ad207000000b002e7ab4185d2so212778oos.6 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 12:57:52 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YNULdd3TDUjkh3XoyBiB48w8R3b2/NQj+zMW+Pr3O/o=; b=h8nz8cajtCUXZ9hrX/kxmUyCjVvteCsKz63f6gh4XAaeN79zTikNpGQdk4HfVFOPYg ctOVGn3kD2LhAAaGNQ7cWAJTOUb7EMwjL0sZyQVEdFWkIUfV00klGgUlvOxT1k7rRwdi DcUlSw9zDoFqzZAK7SjF/aWW/9m26oYMFc4XjoN7h9NSMPKDrkU/Cx5tmPG+n62pvnuQ uQZAi0IvdsKnalPqKiTIpyUiA+5S1tA8YYsYoZOvjEMXk7zIULNPBXekBW+s4ekQ+fOM hbOp2T1X9Azr49EHOYeBRXtxF27SJyUCiTesKrKX9mwWT7Pn7G1FCchW1a7/sWma7AO4 FlPg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YNULdd3TDUjkh3XoyBiB48w8R3b2/NQj+zMW+Pr3O/o=; b=PWpAODaJGGzN1oy8FQ6KUm0p0WIg/PoIyW5fcJgNm/lkt3Mi1rxFPMRdpfDySfkWI1 HZXmmdu2JVqdlhlmO7LRrDROx9bg75EMtXcjfgSqy7bHPBFONg+3N3I8WgFIUmLDjg4k iaJehWbxzwoiHZ6uTbihsdbn8WL4ns/GzUPMA39XERZqE/dfyHo3iSCJm0hF3DGo2OVA BbdXQhl+G04MqoVOgk8uRAlLTehtYOS9u3x8U+5LmFW19in7IM/YkZ4PqHADGN+ydgeE w4mtHln1xO3r6V7jEp+terXgtJ/fQBQ1K0NDUhK4JcSdzsbvpgXt4/WXbI1Z5bCd5xvy LZkw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533EiDSEsG6cn58n0dzVmv+xXi2xXOnrM44HR7YUlyv3nFExAgkv 01qnpx6VN1yFnHpAL05Qd7g9Wr7hZ0RpYcq+Sds=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzKwLpsIdtVkkhYlZVX88IXNYOXdNFvy8Z7k/R9H0fqkqSTp4fgZob/ma2H629HGaOOydfYbVqxqqoRCOr3NNY=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6820:813:: with SMTP id bg19mr14303526oob.71.1643835470779; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 12:57:50 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <e1c5f458c3244f63a3488a472391b002@huawei.com> <CAFS+G6S17Ho=ysmtfh1rLCT7r9F0Q1FBuCK-Yoh35wUXPUm-4Q@mail.gmail.com> <PR3PR07MB8292438BCB4D0FFDA0A656F4F0229@PR3PR07MB8292.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> <AM7PR07MB62480AE9EEF9B94E461E99A7A0279@AM7PR07MB6248.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <AM7PR07MB62480AE9EEF9B94E461E99A7A0279@AM7PR07MB6248.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
From: Aihua Guo <aihuaguo.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 15:57:40 -0500
Message-ID: <CAFS+G6SdycZ=LG1NpA5gTBJUjD=71khZLyUw3hEgC4Hkg_OXhw@mail.gmail.com>
To: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
Cc: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004e19e005d70f4562"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ccamp/53Drop6Ban4jgWwq6kFI5unpZDA>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] POLL CLOSED - WG adoption poll on draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03
X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ccamp/>
List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 20:58:06 -0000

Hi Tom,

Noted with thanks to your very helpful comments! We will update the draft
and address your comments in the upcoming revision.

Thank you,
Aihua

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 6:44 AM tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:

> There are good reasons why there is a limit of five authors on the front
> page of an RFC so when I see in excess of twice that number, I know what to
> expect:-(
>
> IANA Considerations must be as per YANG Guidelines; no IANA
> Considerations, no YANG modules.
>
> Security Considerations must be as per YANG Guidelines.
>
> Line length is limited in RFC; this limit is exceeded in the YANG modules
>
> YANG import must be a Normative Reference in the I-D.
>
> TLP is out of date in the YANG module
>
> YANG references must also be I-D references e,g GSMA NS Template (and they
> have to be accessible)
>
> No RF8174 boiler plate; are those lower case 'must' really lower case?
>
> Abbreviations need expanding on first use in both text and YANG module
>
> The way my mind works is that if these straightforward non-technical
> matters are not right then is there any point in looking at the technical
> ones? YMMV!
>
> Tom Petch
>
> ________________________________________
> From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daniele Ceccarelli
> <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Sent: 28 January 2022 13:50
> To: Aihua Guo; Fatai Zhang
> Cc: CCAMP
> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] POLL CLOSED - WG adoption poll on
> draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03
>
> Hi Aihua,
>
> That’s an excellent work, it will make the interim much more profitable.
> Thanks a lot.
> It would be great to have a similar list/presentation from the part of the
> WG that believes that we should speak about OTN slicing but only
> applicability of OTN to network slicing.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniele
>
> From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Aihua Guo
> Sent: den 27 januari 2022 19:14
> To: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] POLL CLOSED - WG adoption poll on
> draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03
>
> Hi Fatai, Daniele, WG,
>
> Thank you for concluding the adoption call.
> draft-ietf-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-00 has been published to the WG.
>
> In today's meeting, we have created a collection of comments received from
> the mailing list, and plan to provide further responses for the interim
> based on the replies already made on the mailing list. The list is tracked
> as issue #25<
> https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-487ca34dd2925741&q=1&e=558326bf-5aa5-4c1a-bc50-0e4d1cac4cb3&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Faguoietf%2Fietf-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing%2Fissues%2F25>
> on GitHub and also copied below for your reference:
>
>   1.  Harmonizing with [draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slice-nbi-yang]
>   2.  It would be helpful for the draft to reflect the fact that OTN-SC is
> just a “NS Realizer” for OTN networks.
>   3.  Harmonizing with [draft-ietf-teas-applicability-actn-slicing]
>   4.  Reduced frontpage author (#23<
> https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-4792b329c1f7937d&q=1&e=558326bf-5aa5-4c1a-bc50-0e4d1cac4cb3&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Faguoietf%2Fietf-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing%2Fissues%2F23
> >)
>   5.  Clarify relationship between an OTN slice and L1VPN
>   6.  Clarify relationship between an OTN slice and Abstract (TE) Topology
>   7.  Is there a need for OTN slicing? Some thought that slicing should
> stop at IP layer
>   8.  Is "OTN slicing" a conflated term, and should we call it "OTN
> resource partitioning" or "OTN virtual network"?
>   9.  Update the description and Fig. 2 for the 3 identified options.
> Explicit verbiage showing the options would be good for the reader.
>   10. It would be helpful to show maybe in a section that how this
> additional OTN-SC the value and gains it provides that is not already
> provided by ACTN framework RFC 8453.
>   11. It may be a good idea to add verbiage in the draft as to the OTN
> slice provisioning gap that exists for network slicing compared to ACTN
> provisioning of underlay VN Type 1 and Type 2 OTN resources.
>   12. Minor changes to the text following section 1.3.2 of RFC 5921 (MPLS
> --> MPLS(-TP))
> Thanks,
> Aihua
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:45 AM Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai=
> 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The WG poll is closed with the result of the draft being adopted based on
> the WG consensus.
>
> We as the chairs made the decision to adopt the draft because there is
> lots of interest in this topic and the open comments have been clarified to
> some extent, and we’re arranging an interim just on this draft and the WG
> will decide if and how to update the draft according to mailing list
> discussion and interim discussions.
>
>
> Authors, please republish draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03  as
> draft-ietf-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-00 with only the date and file name
> changed..
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fatai & Daniele
>
>
> 发件人: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org>]
> 代表 Fatai Zhang
> 发送时间: 2022年1月12日 10:24
> 收件人: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>>
> 主题: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03
>
> Hi all,
>
> All the IPR declarations regarding draft-zheng-ccamp-yang-otn-slicing-03
> have been collected, this starts the polling for WG adoption.
>
> The poll will last 2 weeks and will end on Wednesday January 26th.
>
> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
> support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support"
> and nice to have for the "support".
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fatai & Daniele
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CCAMP mailing list
> CCAMP@ietf.org<mailto:CCAMP@ietf.org>
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp
>