Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical Transport Networks (OTN) consideration post-IETF82

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Tue, 29 November 2011 12:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical Transport Networks (OTN) consideration post-IETF82
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John,
	I think the gist of my comment (from 2 meetings ago) got lost.   The WG
needs to ensure that any changes / additions to GMPLS don't break
existing GMPLS implementations.  Please see the message I just sent to
Sergio.

Lou

On 11/28/2011 11:53 AM, John E Drake wrote:
> I would suggest that those folks with deployed G.709v1 networks write an
> I-D detailing their requirements for an interworking function.
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> *From:* ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] *On
> Behalf Of *BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
> *Sent:* Friday, November 25, 2011 12:53 AM
> *To:* CCAMP
> *Subject:* [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical
> Transport Networks (OTN) consideration post-IETF82
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> Hi CCAMP,
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> as outcome of the Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical
> Transport Networks (OTN) presentation, Lou Berger asked co-authors to
> provide a new section in the framework document dealing with backward
> compatibility, as summary with respect to what is already present/will
> be present in the  encoding documents.
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> In our opinion, the first thing to do is deciding which are the
> scenarios that have to be taken into account.
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> As hypothesis we would like to consider network element domains 
> composed either of G.709v1 or G709v3 network elements,
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> so without having a mix of network element in the same domains. The
> motivation for this is that operators
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> would not be happy with the mix because managing control plane versions
> implementing very different features
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> is not practical from a network operation point of view. 
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> Please note that backward compatibility issues are to be considered
> between GMPLS versions. So for G.709v1 NE we mean
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> a network element with G.709v1 HW and support of RFC4328 only.
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> The case of a NE with G709v1 HW supporting our GMPLS drafts does not
> have backward compatibility issues because it can be considered as a
> new  node with limitations.
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> Said this the candidate scenarios may be:
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> 1)  Interworking between a G.709v1 domain with a G.709v3 domain (path is
> terminated by one G.709v1 node and G.709v3  node)
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> 2) Interworking in the case of  a G.709v1 domain – a G.709v3 domain –
> G709v1 domain (G.709v3 domain in the middle of two G.709v1 domains. The
> path being terminated on G.709v1 equipment.)
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> We'd like to hear the opinion of the WG whether CCAMP consider
> exhaustive the type of scenarios proposed, before proceeding with any
> modification to the document.
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> Thanks
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> Sergio and co-authors
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> *SERGIO BELOTTI*
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> ALCATEL-LUCENT
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> Terrestrial System Architect
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> Optics Portfolio Evolution
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> via Trento 30 , Vimercate(MI)  Italy
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> T: +39 0396863033
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> *Sergio.Belotti@alcatel-lucent.com*
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